Simple Questions 2

by Eventru

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Aison2011-07-19 12:18:27
When did plain wooden pipes get more popular than the pretty artisan-crafted ones?

The ones I find now are ridiculously expensive in comparison, rather than only marginally so (and worth paying the extra gold for since they lasted longer AND looked nicer!).
Lendren2011-07-19 12:26:25
QUOTE (Aison @ Jul 19 2011, 08:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When did plain wooden pipes get more popular than the pretty artisan-crafted ones?

Starting before Artisan existed and lasting until the indefinite future. A while back, when they realized that artisan pipes were not very popular at all despite being an only slightly worse deal in most cases, they increased their price by shifting the commodites requirements up. They also made the Rune of the Tobacconist work on simple oaken pipes, not only on artisan pipes. So things are sure to change! For the worse, but they're sure to change.
Unknown2011-07-19 13:01:45
QUOTE (Aison @ Jul 19 2011, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When did plain wooden pipes get more popular than the pretty artisan-crafted ones?

The ones I find now are ridiculously expensive in comparison, rather than only marginally so (and worth paying the extra gold for since they lasted longer AND looked nicer!).


I'm willing to pay the extra for pretty pipes that last longer, and without pipelist I can keep track easier. (yay for alts without pipelist)
Unknown2011-07-19 14:18:41
Very simple (and probably stupid question).

England and the US have different terminology for the term "biscuit" and "muffin". So which terminology gets used in Lusternia? I figured when push comes to shove, the US definition wins, but I know we use British English spelling of things like colour, so I'd figure I'd ask this. (There are a lot of cooks, so I wonder about this when I buy a product).
Unknown2011-07-19 14:48:13
QUOTE (Phred @ Jul 19 2011, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very simple (and probably stupid question).

England and the US have different terminology for the term "biscuit" and "muffin". So which terminology gets used in Lusternia? I figured when push comes to shove, the US definition wins, but I know we use British English spelling of things like colour, so I'd figure I'd ask this. (There are a lot of cooks, so I wonder about this when I buy a product).

Well cookies are called cookies already, so I would assume that biscuits are nice tasty american biscuits, and muffins are dome-shaped-cholesterol-traps.
Eventru2011-07-19 14:56:34
QUOTE (Lendren @ Jul 19 2011, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Starting before Artisan existed and lasting until the indefinite future. A while back, when they realized that artisan pipes were not very popular at all despite being an only slightly worse deal in most cases, they increased their price by shifting the commodites requirements up. They also made the Rune of the Tobacconist work on simple oaken pipes, not only on artisan pipes. So things are sure to change! For the worse, but they're sure to change.


Damn. We've been caught.

Everyone's found out we increased the commodity costs just to force people to use regular wooden pipes.

Quickly, to the hills!
Daraius2011-07-19 15:11:26
Say there's a a suit design I really like, but I want it in another color. The original designer isn't around to write up or sign off on a new version of it. Is it appropriate to have a trademaster submit essentially a copy of the design with some very minor changes, or should I have a whole new suit designed?
Aithera2011-07-19 15:28:12
This is kind of a similar question. What's the policy on taking something someone else (now dormant) wrote, and adapting it to the stage?
Neos2011-07-19 15:47:23
QUOTE (Starfire Q @ Jul 19 2011, 04:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What is this from?
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Blessing           Fitness            Fire            15

It's from Maiden in Moon, gives certain defenses, similar to Benediction in Sacraments and certain Athletics skills.
Daraius2011-07-19 16:02:08
QUOTE (Aithera @ Jul 19 2011, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is kind of a similar question. What's the policy on taking something someone else (now dormant) wrote, and adapting it to the stage?


Personally, I feel if you're explicit enough in giving credit to the original author, it shouldn't be an issue. You can set that person as the playwright of the production, or make a note in the program, or even record an acknowledgement at the beginning.
Lendren2011-07-19 16:22:15
While I agree with Daraius, I've always gotten permission from the original author or not gone ahead, just to be extra careful. Like how Weird Al could do parodies legally without permission, but won't.

Adaptation is really an interesting creative challenge. But it's one of those things that gets very little appreciation compared to the amount of work or creativity involved. (Nowhere near as much so as creating puzzles, though.)
Janalon2011-07-19 17:46:28
QUOTE (Lendren @ Jul 19 2011, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While I agree with Daraius, I've always gotten permission from the original author or not gone ahead, just to be extra careful. Like how Weird Al could do parodies legally without permission, but won't.

Adaptation is really an interesting creative challenge. But it's one of those things that gets very little appreciation compared to the amount of work or creativity involved. (Nowhere near as much so as creating puzzles, though.)


Are we talking proper etiquette as to one's intellectual property, or copyright law and/or Lusternia's own unique player rulebook?


Aison2011-07-19 17:53:35
QUOTE (Phred @ Jul 19 2011, 07:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very simple (and probably stupid question).

England and the US have different terminology for the term "biscuit" and "muffin". So which terminology gets used in Lusternia? I figured when push comes to shove, the US definition wins, but I know we use British English spelling of things like colour, so I'd figure I'd ask this. (There are a lot of cooks, so I wonder about this when I buy a product).


The US definition comes out on the win; cookies are called cookies, not biscuits (there isn't even a design available for biscuits).

And that's how it should be. Biscuits are made of BREAD!


Also about the artisan thing: Why exactly were artisan pipe comms raised? I realise that people can basically work a slave shop for their own comms, but even so - artisan was already ridiculously overpriced and is probably the one tradeskill that will not make you ANY gold, no matter how long you stay at it. It's really only a tradeskill for aesthetics, rather than functionality; so again, why raise the cost of comms for each item? Going from 750 comms for a throne to 1250 is WAY overkill.
Enyalida2011-07-19 17:57:35
QUOTE (Lendren @ Jul 19 2011, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While I agree with Daraius, I've always gotten permission from the original author or not gone ahead, just to be extra careful. Like how Weird Al could do parodies legally without permission, but won't.

Adaptation is really an interesting creative challenge. But it's one of those things that gets very little appreciation compared to the amount of work or creativity involved. (Nowhere near as much so as creating puzzles, though.)


I say, unless you made substantial edits, just don't try to win anything with the adaptation and you should be fine.
Aithera2011-07-19 18:04:47
QUOTE (Lendren @ Jul 19 2011, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While I agree with Daraius, I've always gotten permission from the original author or not gone ahead, just to be extra careful. Like how Weird Al could do parodies legally without permission, but won't.

Adaptation is really an interesting creative challenge. But it's one of those things that gets very little appreciation compared to the amount of work or creativity involved. (Nowhere near as much so as creating puzzles, though.)


Some of my desire to do this is because I've come across some really great pieces that not a lot of people seem to know, and it might be easier to raise awareness through a different form. So I'd be more interested in getting the original author's work recognized, than my own (even though I do know that adaptation is hard)
Razenth2011-07-19 18:13:46
QUOTE (Aison @ Jul 19 2011, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also about the artisan thing: Why exactly were artisan pipe comms raised? I realise that people can basically work a slave shop for their own comms, but even so - artisan was already ridiculously overpriced and is probably the one tradeskill that will not make you ANY gold, no matter how long you stay at it. It's really only a tradeskill for aesthetics, rather than functionality; so again, why raise the cost of comms for each item? Going from 750 comms for a throne to 1250 is WAY overkill.



The comm costs of all designs were raised to combat 'commodity hoarding'.
Eventru2011-07-19 18:16:30
QUOTE (Aison @ Jul 19 2011, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The US definition comes out on the win; cookies are called cookies, not biscuits (there isn't even a design available for biscuits).

And that's how it should be. Biscuits are made of BREAD!


Also about the artisan thing: Why exactly were artisan pipe comms raised? I realise that people can basically work a slave shop for their own comms, but even so - artisan was already ridiculously overpriced and is probably the one tradeskill that will not make you ANY gold, no matter how long you stay at it. It's really only a tradeskill for aesthetics, rather than functionality; so again, why raise the cost of comms for each item? Going from 750 comms for a throne to 1250 is WAY overkill.


Organizations were hoarding hundreds of thousands of various commodities - so clearly there was a glut in commodity production, so we raised the cost of producing all designs. We didn't raise the cost of Arts stuff, but maybe we should.
Aison2011-07-19 18:19:28
QUOTE (Eventru @ Jul 19 2011, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Organizations were hoarding hundreds of thousands of various commodities - so clearly there was a glut in commodity production, so we raised the cost of producing all designs. We didn't raise the cost of Arts stuff, but maybe we should.


suspicious.gif That makes sense, though Arts comms could be raised so artisans can at least compete in the pipe area!
Enyalida2011-07-19 19:12:01
For the most part, org comm shop prices won't drop drastically due to higher stocks, not by half. The npc prices also didn't change drastically afaik. Some of the trades were hit harder by this then others, there was a lot of grumbling when the cost for already expensive trades (read, artisan and tinker) were doubled, and their demand slumped as a result, making them even worse off. I'm not going to ever bother with furniture because it doesn't really give me any better rp (no one will come to my manse, for the most part), and it gives me no mechanical benefit. It's an old change, but still not particularly liked.
Sylphas2011-07-19 19:27:01
QUOTE (Enyalida @ Jul 19 2011, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For the most part, org comm shop prices won't drop drastically due to higher stocks, not by half. The npc prices also didn't change drastically afaik. Some of the trades were hit harder by this then others, there was a lot of grumbling when the cost for already expensive trades (read, artisan and tinker) were doubled, and their demand slumped as a result, making them even worse off. I'm not going to ever bother with furniture because it doesn't really give me any better rp (no one will come to my manse, for the most part), and it gives me no mechanical benefit. It's an old change, but still not particularly liked.


No mechanical benefit? I couldn't do much without my cabinets, and I love my throne and desk. I never touched my office in Moondancer tower because I already had a better one in my manse, with newsroom and all.

(Also a rave for Lendren for always being helpful with requests for custom furniture.)