Besides the second tradeskill and the marginally useful gatewaving ability, they aren't missing much of anything. It's all stuff they used to have or flavor stuff. In some cases, both.

If you just want divinefire to wither up and die, though, you're hardly alone.

100 or bust.

Comments for Estarra:

+ Please take Geb's suggestion of 50/75/100. Those weights seem scaled well don't widen the endgame gap.

+ Please combine shrink/expand and let the size linger if decayed from ephemeral powers. I don't know how much this was pondered, but it hurts warriors significantly (and monks to a lesser extent as well).

+ Why was the second tradeskill chosen to cost only 10 weight when it cost me 2005 credits in an auction just a couple weeks before? Had I known it would have been released I don't think I'd have paid nearly as much for it.

I think this doesn't prevent you from taking a third tradeskill if you want, though I do see the angle you're coming from.

You can have up to 4 trades if you become an ascendant with an endowment

Choicezap is bugged anyway, so we need the divine list as I can't make one.

Am I right in saying that the new refresh does -not- refresh power anymore?

Everyone can refresh power right now, since it was a titan power, not a demi power. I am inclined to leave it this way.

PLEASE.

Ahh, I didn't realize that. Good to know.

Will there be a list somewhere of how much/if any essence these new skills take to use? I.e. is something like ChoiceZap going to cost essence to buy, and *more* essence per use?

Yeah, I kind of wish they update POWERS INFO (power) to list how much essence it'll cost to use after purchasing them.

Also I think it goes without saying, but I suggest no one buy anything until we're reasonably sure the admin won't change costs/powers/etc. anymore, heh. It'd be awkward buying things only for it to get nerfed or whatever else.

Which makes a ton of sense. Except they're waiting for everyone to blow their essence stashes to play with it before they tweak it.

That'd be cool Obviously demi's and up only but it's something for the non demis' to work for. what about people with multiple seals?



Cool changes overall, it was definitely a tough choice between game balance and pleasing the most people. I have high expecatations for the avatar cult thing. Referring to pleasing people, some will just feel endgame is more unattainable and not based on personal effort as much whereas TA and VA can be a popularity thing. However, avatar is attainable and so is the cult so that's cool and i think once they get more spotlight things will blow over better.



Well they could all get it temporarily...


Okay couple of opinions from me:

for POWERS INFO can the essence cost to use be added for each skill?

For all demigods, I think we can bring back another power or 3-4 powers. Bring back level 3 regeneration. Could even do it as separate health mana ego buyable powers. Could also split it into buying 1 level or 2 levels of regeneration. Now that we're making demigods customizable, I feel like this is something that we can bring back and it won't be overpowered once assigned a cost and weight.

Can we get a full refund on ascendance now? the 80 million some of us are missing is like two of the powerful skills off the whole skillset. In fact taking fearaura, aegis, and destruction would consume all weights and cost more than a full refund, meaning we'd still have to bash another 30 million. I think all ascendants will really appreciate a full refund if this can be taken into consideration. Remember the best experience without golden kissable lips or achievements is about 1 million per hour. so to make up for the 80 that we lost it's 80 hours -AT BEST-

EDIT: Oh yeah the 1 million per hour is only for the pilot, gunner, empath. The rest make half. Slivveners make even less ( you get zero experience per kill if you are unlocked). Siphoners are literally just as important to have and so are slivveners in a bash. If you can't siphon, there's no spawn so why do they make half in the first place? Well I know, but still it's not a fair workaround. Siphoners also consume the -most- willpower. siphon extra is 200 willpower a siphon. even normal siphoning, high intelligence (meaning how willpower) demigods will lose all willpower siphoning for an hour. However the same is not true of the pilot gunners or empath. In fact the pilot and empath can literally do their jobs 24 hours straight.

The costs probably shouldn't be scaled to 1mil/h. Most of us don't come close to that.

I have faith that, in time, as costs are reduced from the silly standard of 1mil/h and weights are looked at (and I agree with Gregori in the other thread that RP stuff shouldn't have weight even if you think that Demigods having to choose between RP and combat is very clever), and more stuff is added, this will be a great system. But for now, I just want one thing.

Please flesh out POWERS INFO to include everything relevant, including essence costs. Like, Seek's INFO:

makes it seem like it's a free Demiscry from anywhere and newcomers will be sorely disappointed that, after paying for it, they can only do it in the Havens. We have to know -exactly- what we're paying for.


Obligatory lololol @ PlanarQuickening (because what would a post be without some trolling)

EDIT: Should've probably posted this in the other thread(s). Oops.

Ok...

Everyone is complaining about Demis being beat with the nerfbat, and how ascendants are so OP now..


The thing is, I always thought part of the -point- was to bring demigods closer to the non-demi playerbase. It was said several times in just the last 3 months or so that demi was considered to be a cost of entry to the competitive combatant game.

With the increased costs for Ascendants, they will become -much- less common. If you're one of the top 10 characters in the game (top 10, not top 10%, mind you) then I can totally understand you warranting total BAMF status.

I'm not a demigod. But I still really want to get it. From the numbers I've seen given, it seems to me essence costs likely -do- need to be adusted somewhat, but... no other group of people in the game get to spend XP on neat powers. That still totally makes getting demi worth it in my mind, and makes so (if I were any decent at combat yet to begin with) I would be able to compete more viably with a larger portion of the playerbase than I could before.


Which, forgive me if I'm wrong, I thought was a big part of the point.


ETA: I don't mean to come off sounding harsh, especially since I didn't lose anything myself. I'm just baffled why people seem surprised, since this all falls in line with what I had understood the purpose to be. Still sucks to be lose a bunch of stuff.

I think that's part of the issue. A lot of the ascendants are people who are hard enough to kill already, so taking helpful things from people who actually relied on them while restricting how many they can earn back, while allowing ascendants access to far more while also giving them a lot of new content opportunities... leaves a bitter taste. The people who felt like they needed demi just to compete with said ascendants now have to super grind to get a fraction of what they had to help them back, hence the sentiments of helplessness and uselessness.

On the other hand, ascendants kind of need to be more to be worth their costs. They cost -alot- more now, and if they are only demi+ instead of demi++, will Hallifax or Gaudiguch ever bother to raise one for two million power?

It's a lot to work with, and a lot of the posts you read were initial reactions. I think it's to be expected.

Yeah, this is true on a lot of levels. ISTM that a lot of the issue was with non-demis feeling like they needed demi just to compete at all, not to compete with the ascendants though. I won't say I'll never be able to take down Shuyin (well, ok, maybe not since he's my char's dad, but you get the point) but it was certainly never what I would consider to be a baselevel goal.

Still, I know it must suck to lose all the goodies.

Now to learn combat so I can get to that trying to compete thing.

Actually some of us are discussing the raise, strip, rinse, repeat to get our non demi combatants up to demi 'instantly' and let them aetherhunt essence to get things they need. Instead of raising VA's as VA's.

Oooo, where do I sign up for that?