I hate PvP, so Warhammer is not a game I want to play, and Aion... well, if I had ever gotten past level 7, I would have probably stopped eventually anyway, considering that after all the grind, it's all PvP.

My two favourite aspects of WoW are raiding and RPing. Unfortunately, the RP part of the game keeps getting shafted, and one of my favourite raiding classes (Resto Druid!) is having Tree of Life form turned into a trinket-like cooldown. This change was mostly done for PvP purposes, as well as other superficial and lame excuses that have been made for it. Such as:

1. Waaaa, I can't see my gear! QQQQQQ!
Guess what, princess, no Druid can! If you rolled to see your gear, you rolled the wrong damn class.

2. I keep getting owned in PvP because everyone comes after the Tree first!
You know who else they come after first? The Druid in caster form. Why? Because why the heck would any other spec of Druid be in freaking CASTER FORM?!

3. Giving up everything for DPS is cool, giving up everything to heal is lame.
No, you're lame, Ghostcrawler. Maybe I WANT to be locked to heals. I know there are others like me out there, but we're the quiet ones.

This all mixed together with the fact that PvPers have the biggest mouths and are heard the most, and it doesn't matter if I want to RP in my Tree form, now I'm not allowed to. I realize that Druids didn't have Tree form until BC, but that change was the whole reason I decided to become a healer. Before that, I was very adamant about never healing.

Unfortunately, I'm kind of not allowed to go through with my plans to scrap my Druid's healing spec in Cataclysm, because I'm currently the only Resto Druid in my guild (or at least, the only good one ><). Oh well, at least I'm not one of a million for once.

Also, the Tree of Life cooldown is really underwhelming. 15% extra healing, 120% armor, and some slight spell changes that are kind of cool (insta-regrowth, extra stack of lifebloom), and movement speed reduced by 50% for only 45 seconds every 5 minutes. Boo.

Screw druids, mages get heroism.

I'm curious. Why do you hate PvP so much? Also, I'm fairly sure Tree got nerfed because it was too easy and Druids were taking all the healing spots in raids. Consider that, as a resto Shaman in 25 Naxx WoTLK pre-Uld patch (Already easy), I was OOMing non-stop (with similar gear) on Patch, and Resto Druids were sittin pretty at 97% doin OT healing on Warriors - the lowest hp/damage miti tanks at the time. They had/have some ridiculous regen from spirit that boosted their mana regen to the point that they couldn't do away with their mana no matter how hard they tried. Yeah, it got too easy, so Blizz scaled it back - this is how Blizzard works... Every few months, (major patch) Blizzard will come out with a new set of changes for each class to re-"balance" them. Basically, it's like a carousel of flavors. Each one gets their turn - supposedly - and that makes everyone "happy." I think as we all know, you can't ever make everyone happy, so satisfying the overwhelming majority is sufficient enough to sustain 11 million players.

Where I agree that turning Tree into a trinket-popping mechanic is not among the greatest ways to solve a problem like that, I do believe they were shoe-in for a hefty nerf for a very, very long time. Since season 1 BC, Druids have been THE healing class to play, and remained so unwaveringly. I'm without doubt that they're still #1 healer picks across the board for 3s and 5s.

Blaming everything on PvPers is a sure way to get your skills changed though, cause that's how the PvPers got their resilience. Also, the extent to which people RP in WoW was probably the biggest shameful cluster of idiocy I've ever seen in my life. If you're looking for a graphics game to RP in, I kindly doubt that game is the place to be. Doesn't IRE have like Tears of Polaris or something where you can engage in meaningful, in-depth RP that isn't a MUD?

Edited because I can't write coherently.

I usually hate PVP as well. PVP in WoW did -not- work for me at all, PVP in Lusternia neither.

I -love- to PVP in Warhammer Online, though.

... And that is all I got which is even vaguely on topic. Later!

ToP is a mud. Earth eternal is a graphical thing, but all the races are furrikin, which kind of sets a different, ah, tone.

Do you have to learn a lot of lingo to play warcraft? Some of these posts are completely incomprehensible to me.

On that note, ToP is looking AWESOME.

Yes, but in all honesty the jargon of most developed modern genres (MMOs, RTSs and FGs being the main culprits) is much easier to learn than most aspects of Lusternia. It can start out a little overwhelming but most stuff is either easy enough to figure out through playing the game or has historical context people can explain to you.

Your real concern would be downloading enough mods to improve the godawful default interface (trying to downgrade to WoW's interface from GW's was the main reason I never got into it), but since we have a bunch of players there are probably plenty of people who could hook you up with that.

Man, Warhammer Online was a great game. Too bad crybabies/incompetent nerfs scaling the playerbase down to almost nothing ruined it.

I loved LOTRO, the environment was so beautiful, and the party system was really great. A group of friends could just spend all night questing together.

The dungeons, however, are just too weird compared to what I'm used to with WoW.

Oh man, I might start playing again (is a group of people on the same server? I need people to play with or I get bored within 5 minutes)

I couldn't get into LOTRO. The interface was...ick. The game in general was just hard for me to get into.



There's is a lot of lingo in wow, fortunately the wow site itself (worldofwarcraft.com) and the wiki have a list of most of the acronyms that pop up in game. If you ever get into it, and get confused you're always welcome to post in this thread or PM one of us. I am always happy to help with anything wow related.

I also look forward to it, very much.

I'll totally play a smurf.

It's a shame that no one has yet to create a good enough graphical MMO to capture every aspect that other games specialize in. I suppose, though, that that's just how it works - you can't have a jack of all trades that is especially good at everything. IRE MUDs are amazing at in-depth RP and combat mechanics - unbeatable if you were to ask me - but obviously, they fall short in the graphics, and for good reason. But sometimes you want to see your character, so you go for a graphical game.

I do have a game that I kept my eye on for quite a while, it was introduced as a sandbox-MMO. I played it early in beta and it just released a month or so ago. Beta didn't have much to show for it, but I don't think it should've been in beta. Nowadays, it looks like it's a lot more fun. The only problem - and this is where WoW has come out on top - is that it requires quite a nice machine to run it. It's probably geared more for the PvPer, but if you'd like to check it out it's Mortal Online (found at mortalonline.com).

Concerning the WoW jargon: I agree, it's pretty complicated. But, having just come to this game, I was completely lost in anything said on the forums - especially by the hardcore pkers. Anything that was said in any thread I couldn't understand at all because it was all abbreviations and acronyms and what-not. I'm starting to pick it up now though, and I imagine the same happens with any other game for other people as well! Basically, in my post what I said was Druids > any healer except Priests, and Blizzard nerfs everything in turn and it was just Druids' turn this time.

Out of all my characters I have on WoW, I like my disc priest the best. So yeah, I'd give up DPS for heals.

The default interface is getting better and better, but yeah, I couldn't live without my mods.

Mods will always be better than the default because they provide so much customization and sooooo many options.

On the subject of Druids:

I PvP quite a bit on my Resto Shaman and Resto Druids are pretty much -the hardest- healing class for me and my partner(affliction lock) to kill. It's nice that he gets an extra CC on him with Banish, but that still doesn't really do that much good with HoTs everywhere. I'm freaking going OOM from spamming Purge on our kill target while trying to survive damage from his Rogue, DK, Ret Pally, or Warrior partner.... Druids need a nerf in Cata or every other healer needs a buff of some sort. I think changing Tree to a cooldown does sort of fix this problem but i'm not happy that they don't get to stay as a tree....

Also, I'm sick of competing with Resto Druids in raids. I know I can bring the chain heals but HoTs are just too OP.

I think the fix for healers is they are going to oom a lot faster, at least that's what I hear. There will be different levels of healing, and in raids you won't be spam healing from start to finish, rather you will be healing when needed and perhaps attacking a little to get mana back, from what I understand of the things I read, though I could be wrong. I think that will make it more fun for PvP not having unkillable resto druids and such (I pvp as an aff lock). On that note I'm looking forward to rated battlegrounds in cataclysm.

I like tanking raids though, orc warriors ftw! One day I'll get a healer, I want a holy paladin.

Draenei Holy Priest

Level 1 to level 70.

The only way, man. None of this wannabe treehugger nonsense, and you can forget about Priests in Plate.

I need to level up my priest, so I can have her be disc/holy and keep my paladin as a full time tank (with ret offspec for questing). Trying to decide between rogue, dk, and warrior for my melee dps, and keeping my mage for ranged.