What what I find hysterically ironic about all of this is that in Hallifax, the complaint is "You favour noncombatants too much, stop oppressing the fighters!" while everywhere else it is "You favour fighters too much, stop oppressing the noncombatants!" Just goes to show that no one is happy unless they are doing better than someone else.

Or that people have massive trouble distinguishing false dichotomies from actual dichotomies.

Shiri isn't allowed to use big words anymore. He is a hallifaxian IRL. I bet he gets lots of "favours" too.

>_>

We just talked!

Although you didn't want this to be an X vs. Y thing, I have to pull this statement out and acknowledge that, contextually (This Is Hallifax) it is perfectly sound. However, when you start widening the scope of that context (This Is Lusternia) it starts to become a problem. Well, not so much a problem as it may be, well, unwise. Similarly, your other statement along the lines of "CR3 would be okay to" is also a bit unwise, because without a second village influence skill you're actively crippling a person to the point that they can only grab village children with any ease.

You can cityfavour up the essay writer/sonnet singer/etc. as Shaddus pointed out - and culturally, sure, they're going to be a nice addition to the city. But will they ever do anything of value with that CR6? Are they promised to have a system so they can help influence in villages and not topple over and die?

Ileein mentioned previously (lost the quote, Shiri's fault) that it was nice to live in a place where combatants weren't worshiped. Aside from outbursts of Seren drama rage, I can't really recall a situation where a combatant was paraded in such a way. You can still respect them - and you do, since they're still getting cityfavours - but for some the active restriction may be bothersome. Can it be overcome by helping in village revolts, or is that a 'up to CR4 only' thing?

Stop encouraging them and get busy figuring out what we can offer to Glomdoring in tribute.

But I don't want to tribute.

Not even if it means crushing Halli spirits? What kind of lame troll are you?

Clearly we have managed in village revolts somehow. (P.S. Not Glomdoring.)

I think it's worthy of note that it's pathetically easy to get a favor for artistic/cultural contributions. Publish a book? Get a favor. Length and, to a degree, quality don't matter; as long as it's good enough to go into the library and get published, you're good enough to get favored. Design a bunch of high-quality stuff? As long as someone notices (and you are allowed to go to someone and say 'hey, look, I designed all of this cool stuff for the city, favor me please?') you're quite likely to be favored. Stand around the library or University and debate with someone about SCIENCE? Boom, you're favored. Write a play? Hell, act in a play? Boom, you're favored.

quick give them babies to sacrifice!

Caste Article II, Section III states that influencing in village revolts is up to middle Castes.

The only four things to get to rank 6 are Academics, arts, and prestige. Oh, and getting elected.

Clearly you need to hold more elections then. I bet you can't beat our record! Come on do it for science!

Well, there needs to be a new winner to get the favor, so we would beat your record for changes in power.

Ugh.


The fact that Hallifax maintains RP cohesion in regards to its caste system, despite not being the RP of "whatever is mechanically best for me is my RP", is something to be admired, period. The same way that, as much as it can be frustrating for gaudi to put up with some of the excesses of "freedom", if we didn't do that, we would be a failed shell of an org that's just a few variables different from some generic system of combat.

As it turns out, RP that isn't play to win driven sometimes carries a cost. You can work around the cost and maintain the integrity of the RP. Something a rather recent thread has gotten some of us in Gaudi to do.

So both new orgs have some RP hiccups. That's to be expected. Kudos to people in both cities working to maintain the spirit of the thing without devolving into "MY RP IS WHAT MAKES US WIN."




Your forum avatar doppleganger was in the gaudi thread "jokingly" commenting on letting Gaudi being taken over by halli. Not quite as much fun when people take cheap shots at your org, when you're working to improve it, is it?

No, no, it's good advice! We should drop it and get busy stealing Glomdoring because choke + whispers = win

To the former:



Managing to, somehow, be almost entirely unopposed in your efforts. As for the later - alright, true, but there's no particularly wise reason to not invest into the growth of combatants. You can argue 'It's RP!' fairly since it's Hallifax, and I don't know about anyone else, but maintaining RP that actively involves shooting yourself in the foot just makes me cringe. (Probably why my alts in Hallifax have very unstable play times)

An amusing observation. Being a roleplayer and a protector myself, I honestly don't have any reservations leaning one way. There have been some fairly rebellious attitudes, especially towards people who choose not to defend. Even swearing on CT.

Quoted for truth.

EDIT: @Furien- regarding your alts' unstable play-times, I'm sorry to hear that, but I have never been able to maintain alts in Glom, Magnagora, or Gaudiguch. They just don't fit my preferred play style at this time; that's something I have to deal with! Not everyone is comfortable playing in all environments.