Hallifax Combatant Problem

by Rika

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Geb2010-08-09 19:41:31
QUOTE (Sarvasti @ Aug 9 2010, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
More like Hallifax is probably going to be the ones who create the atomic bomb and blow everyone up. so we're all screwed either way.

"So...what's this do?"
"Not sure. I think it might blow the world up."
"Let's do it.....For Science!"


Please, the science Hallifax practices is more akin to Ghost Hunter pseudo science. Can't create anything tangible when you study phenomena that can't even be verified or tested.
Unknown2010-08-09 19:45:37
I like this thread. Its where all the people who only play half of the game act superior.

And why does the caste system have to be tied to city ranks? And that's a serious question. Give favours for the sake of mechanics and reward and find other ways to invoke the castes.
Casilu2010-08-09 19:47:31
QUOTE (Othero @ Aug 9 2010, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like this thread. Its where all the people who only play half of the game act superior.

And why does the caste system have to be tied to city ranks? And that's a serious question. Give favours for the sake of mechanics and reward and find other ways to invoke the castes.


Someone had that idea a long time ago and was ignored.
Ileein2010-08-09 19:47:45
QUOTE (geb @ Aug 9 2010, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Please, the science Hallifax practices is more akin to Ghost Hunter pseudo science. Can't create anything tangible when you study phenomena that can't even be verified or tested.


From an OOC point of view, that's true. ICly, however, you're dead wrong! You're welcome to "so fix it," though.
Casilu2010-08-09 19:49:13
QUOTE (Ileein @ Aug 9 2010, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From an OOC point of view, that's true. ICly, however, you're dead wrong! You're welcome to "so fix it," though.


I don't think anyone would want that much math involved.
Ytran2010-08-09 19:53:57
My only problem with combat CFs in Halli is the sheer randomness of who does and does get on the favour list. Getting entirely overlooked in at least two revolts and several raid defenses... dry.gif

Note: This is an OOC annoyance, not an IC annoyance. Attention-whoring and favour-seeking for one's self IC is fairly annoying in a general sense, and doubly so in the city of "the individual is unimportant, all power to the Collective".

wub.gif Science wub.gif
Unknown2010-08-09 19:54:37
QUOTE (Ytran @ Aug 9 2010, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My only problem with combat CFs in Halli is the sheer randomness of who does and does get on the favour list. Getting entirely overlooked in at least two revolts and several raid defenses... dry.gif

Note: This is an OOC annoyance, not an IC annoyance. Attention-whoring and favour-seeking for one's self IC is fairly annoying in a general sense, and doubly so in the city of "the individual is unimportant, all power to the Collective".

If you get overlooked, tell someone and you'll be added to the list! It's not hard.
Ytran2010-08-09 19:55:30
QUOTE (Phoebus @ Aug 9 2010, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you get overlooked, tell someone and you'll be added to the list! It's not hard.


QUOTE
Note: This is an OOC annoyance, not an IC annoyance. Attention-whoring and favour-seeking for one's self IC is fairly annoying in a general sense, and doubly so in the city of "the individual is unimportant, all power to the Collective".
Unknown2010-08-09 19:56:01
QUOTE (casilu @ Aug 9 2010, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Someone had that idea a long time ago and was ignored.


It'd be interesting to see things like combatants only allowed on the other planes for defense, Having the city library broken up by people's roles. Only the scientists and artists could see the books on science and art. Power rations could be effected by caste instead of rank. Hell, you could even give different tasks for city favours based on what caste someone is in.

And I realize some of those might be lame ideas but it'd solve this pretty silly problem. Hallifax's RP have no high ground in being proud at spurning half of the game in the same way they feel like crap when they think combatants are giving them the middle finger.
Geb2010-08-09 19:58:15
QUOTE (Ileein @ Aug 9 2010, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From an OOC point of view, that's true. ICly, however, you're dead wrong! You're welcome to "so fix it," though.


Oh, Geb is actually. It is just that he is not wasting his time discussing the real sciences of Harmonics and Aeonics with quacks.
Kazban2010-08-09 19:58:48
Hallifax needs more people who can follow directions and less "leaders".
The ego is strong with many Hallifaxians, and that is what hinders progress, everyone wants to be recognized as the hero of the day.
Casilu2010-08-09 20:00:51
QUOTE (Kazban @ Aug 9 2010, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hallifax needs more people who can follow directions and less "leaders".
The ego is strong with many Hallifaxians, and that is what hinders progress, everyone wants to be recognized as the hero of the day.


Do I need to be more Sofia Lamb-ish? 'Cause I can totally do that.
Kiradawea2010-08-09 20:00:51
Fighters are rewarded though. They're limited to CR4 sure, but they should be rewarded. If they aren't, then make it known to a higher up. If city rank reward isn't enough, then that's a different and general problem.

QUOTE
Government Caste Article IV

Defence
Consistent or exceptional efforts concerning the defence and security of
the Sovereign Commonwealth of Hallifax or its territories may be
considered worthy of favour, and promotion to middle castes and no
higher. For promotion beyond the middle caste see Article I Sections
I-III.

Section I

Defence and Security
Activities in the furtherance of city defence and security may include
(but are not limited to): protection of citizens, city structures and
Commonwealth territories from intruders of malicious intent; protection
and defence of individual citizens of the Commonwealth from attackers,
both within or outside of Commonwealth territories; regular and
consistent contribution to the material defences of the city and its
territories, including statues, guards and other relevant bodies;
exceptional performance in civic guard duties including the protection
of diplomatic envoys abroad.

Section II

Offence and Retribution
Any offensive activities against other sovereign nations of the Basin
must be properly sanctioned by the relevant authorities in order to
qualify for favour. The relevant authorities will consist of: members of
the Board of Directors. Repeated unauthorised aggressive actions may
result in demotion from the middle castes.
Unknown2010-08-09 20:02:07
QUOTE (Kazban @ Aug 9 2010, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hallifax needs more people who can follow directions and less "leaders".
The ego is strong with many Hallifaxians, and that is what hinders progress, everyone wants to be recognized as the hero of the day.


No surprise. Much like how most people want to be the snooty noble, and not the pauper tending the former's needs in a certain other org.
Kazban2010-08-09 20:04:16
QUOTE (casilu @ Aug 9 2010, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do I need to be more Sofia Lamb-ish? 'Cause I can totally do that.


Casilu, you know how much I would love that....

Then again I am trying to make Kazban more GLaDOSesque
Anisu2010-08-09 20:04:49
QUOTE (Kazban @ Aug 9 2010, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hallifax needs more people who can follow directions and less "leaders".
The ego is strong with many Hallifaxians, and that is what hinders progress, everyone wants to be recognized as the hero of the day.

or put differently, Hallifax needs a leader.

It may be a bit mean but the mark of a true leader is to inspire what you say here.

(And before people take this as an insult, I am no leader either)
Kazban2010-08-09 20:07:36
Hence why I put "leader" in quotations. I do not see many designated leaders, only a mild facade of leadership based on Caste.
I am no leader, I aspire to be one day be one. I however have much to learn and accomplish before that.
My hunger for greatness can stay on the back burner for a long time. Thats how mistakes happen with elections afterall.
Unknown2010-08-09 20:30:30
Hmm even though we have a severe caste system, I haven't seen people putting down others IG. Most of the citizens can be considered to be in 'upper castes' anyway, and the only servants I see are NPCs.
Casilu2010-08-09 20:31:16
QUOTE (Shou @ Aug 9 2010, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm even though we have a severe caste system, I haven't seen people putting down others IG. Most of the citizens can be considered to be in 'upper castes' anyway, and the only servants I see are NPCs.


I have before.
Ileein2010-08-09 20:38:09
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Also, I'm a little bewildered at the hostility and derision present in many of the posts in this thread. I mean, really? O_o