No, you have to do it at your cult's altar.

And I've fixed the problem with ur'life (was a case typo) and the rest of the breath attacks. You should be able to use them with CURE LIFE, BREATHE SCRAMBLEDWAVE, BREATHE PLAGUE and BREATHE HARMONICWAVE.

I know this was mentioned in the thread for suggested Demigod Powers, but I thought I would mention it here.

I would really like the ability to learn tradeskills that are currently impossible due to my selection of highmagic or lowmagic. Perhaps we could get the ability to choose one based upon a tie to the nature domoth for lowmagic and knowledge domoth for highmagic?

You might want to check that again.

120,000,000 / 30,000 == 4000 meditates. 4000 x10s == 40,000 seconds. 40,000 seconds == 666 minutes == 11 hours-ish. Of nothing but meditating.

Now, in terms of lessons:
1715 / 15 == 114 LEARN FROM messages.

114 != 4000, right from the get-go.

I believe 70,000 essence is 15 lessons, actually.

Could be wrong! I just know 30,000 essence = 15 points. I presumed that's the equivalent of learning, but perhaps not.

Nonetheless, I think it's fine. You're not meant to trans it over night, but rather over time.

1715 / 114 == 15.
120,000,000 / 114 == 1,052,631.

So, roughly 1 million essence is 15 lessons.

120,000,000 / 1715 = ~70,000

~70,000 per lesson, yes, not per 15 lessons.

As Esano said... yeah. You left a multiplying factor out.

That looks like it's showing each single lesson is worth 70000, actually.

EDIT: Ninja'd by two people ._.

The 70,000 number stuck in my head from way back when Talan and I were talking about the essence cost per lesson, and I forgot to multiply it this time, yeah.

Anyway, it would be less of an issue if learning Veneration were more equivalent to learning any other skill, but having to go to that one certain room in a sort of out of the way place and you can't do anything while meditating or you interrupt it make it more undesirable, not to mention the larger time it takes. I mean, the increase time would be acceptable if not for the rest of the restrictions.

There was a large storm in my area last night, which knocked my server out and changed the IP.

IP is now 108.18.130.248 for my server.

I hated that about learning ascendance. It was bad enough it took forever to do, but you couldn't even talk to people while doing it. The theory "you are not meant to trans it over night" is pretty much a wash too, as players don't want to spend days learning, they want to play the game. This is why the whole credits per day conversion rates were finally lifted/changed across IRE, because it was stupid to force players to spend RL weeks learning skills.

There is no benefit to anyone from forcing people to afk for long periods of time while they learn it. Not even you, Eventru!

Thinking about this, I feel strongly that essence costs should be based on the average rate of essence gain from solo astral bashing.

Solo astral bashing is consistent, direct, and works as a good baseline reading for what a person can bring in. Aetherspace represents a gross outlier in the context of methods of essence gain- if we base everything on such an outlier, then we essentially make most other forms of gaining essence irrelevant, save for avenues of last resort.

Of course, doing this would probably require, in the long run if nothing else, lowering the gain from aetherspace or (more preferrably to my mind) raising the gain from other activities.

I do not know if essence gain is code-married to experience gain, but if it is not, this wouldn't even need to impact the initial climb to demigod at all.

I remember Roark telling us that a lesson is worth something like 2.4 points (or maybe 2.33, if Xenthos' numbers are right). He might've told us the reason why, but I don't remember it.

This is untrue. I wrote special learning messages just for Lorina (and soon - Faragan!). She gets to stare at it while learning.

I think this delay was the most brilliant idea in the old cults design, and am glad to have carried it over...

Is there any way the full refund for ascendance is going to get looked at? I mean not to keep harping it up. There are what? 4 TA's and 19 VAs. That's 23 people who are getting screwed out of a 2/3rds of whatever essence they invested. There are 117 demigods. 1/5 of that end game playerbase. 80 million probably a good 120 hours worth of online game time those of us that transcended invested.

I haven't heard one way or another if it's something that is going to be reconsidered after all the more important things are worked out on, but I would appreciate it and I know the rest of us would. At the very least, a final yes or no will be nice to hear from Estarra or someone who knows her answer.

If the answer is no, I would also appreciate a reason why even if it is we don't have the time. I mean sore feelings can heal, but at least this way 23 of us can move on and stop asking about this and perhaps focus our ideas on helping the administration with the creativity they are looking for.

That doesn't sound too bad to me. To trans it? Spend a weekend meditating at it's transed.

It only takes an hour or so to trans a normal skill though.