The test showed exactly what it intended to. It replicated the issue and conditions in the original post (indeed, was even harsher, if you consider that I was hitting Kalin's illuminati aura during it relevant- but I don't really).

Had the initial post been a rant about a shadow dancer using choke, lash, and toadcurse, then the appropriate response would be what you suggest.

We should get back to the real issue that has come up in this thread. Researchers being clearly overpowered and in need of a pyromancer-sized nerf.

(see, I can make obnoxious attacks on other people's abilities using faulty evidence too!)

But that point you proved is... pointless. I mean, the idea behind the rant (yes, the original rant) was that Badluck is overpowered. The log does not necessarily show that, but that's the idea. Your 'point' is arguing against the letter of the rant, when the letter isn't worth arguing.

One could even say you pulled a Xenthos.

Yes, but the OP was based on a bug that has been fixed, and so it is invalid from the start.

The point that was proven was the precise counterpoint to the point of the predecessor post.

Thus, the value of the counterpoint is directly derived from the value of the initial point.

Thus, we are wasting time only if the point made in the original post was a waste of time. If this has been shown to be true, than mission accomplished. That's more or less what we've been trying to show- or at least the end result is the same.

The pedantics and pompous posturing preceeded by that post are premised on proselytizing poppycock, pursuing a paradigmatics produced paroxysm, parted from proof by attacks upon the person.

Preposterous.

my tongue hurts.

If you don't cure being Afraid of the world, you end up with it creating a bunch of fear type afflictions. All it takes is it and one other fear type affliction to get it going. You guys should know this though, since you all are better curers than I am as you have often implied. Matters not that I can deal with it with only quicksilver as my defense, no use of any harmonics, healing, and Aeonics with the exception of Aeon. Oh and I also webbed once in awhile to hinder a bit.

Oh I have found out that Bedevil is cured by Horehound not Reishi, so the help curelist is wrong in that regard.

I can handle badluck while naked, standing on my hands, with rabid squirrels chewing on my testicles, using nothing but astral projection.

See I can make statements that are irrelevant, flex me e-peen, and supported by nothing, too.

BadLuck has no cure, so not the same thing. Yes, if all a person does is BadLuck it will not kill you or do much of anything since the person does not have to act. Though I would have thought you would know that, since you have the ability.

If all you are doing is diagnosing and curing with the occasional hinder tossed out, then I would hope he couldn't kill you. That is a test that really proves nothing meaning it is irrelevant. This is close to what is known as turtling, if you don't know what turtling is I am sure someone in DoK can explain it to you, it's a term known across many MMO's for many years.

About the only place I would expect this test to fail on the part of the curer is in choke, where you only get 1 action a second and they can deliver afflictions faster than that. /this wasn't a rant against choke, just a point about testing this way.

Yet you all can stop to diagnose too. You also have passive abilities going that slow down my attacks like BadLuck and the need to scrub the mucous. It is not like it is hard to detect some of the more powerful afflictions with simple actions either, which I do and as such did not diagnose but once in awhile (mainly to see how many rubies he had on me, and also when I suspected I had the Afraid of the World affliction). Still even outside of that, with your passive and active hindering capabilities, I should have never gotten you to the point I did. If things were starting to get bad for you, the simple solution was to diagnose and see what is wrong.

Badluck isn't lethal, can't be lethal, can't really do much but mimic the effects of Aeonics' defenses...with in-your-face sparrows. You def up. We apply badluck. You quietly slough off your opponents attacks. We advertise when an attack fails. It's the attached emotion that creates the rants, and emotion comes from things people can actually see.

But hey, you know, I'm indifferent to where people decide to pin the desired power level, so long as it is even. We can nerf the hell out of badluck, but a handful of Aeonics abilities need to go with it. If you'd rather, we can leave them alone (since you've most beautifully illustrated that you've fixed your system and a fixed system has no badluck issues), and buff Sacraments and Necromancy instead. We can leave Harmonics with crazy stacks of passive, masked, varied, and powerful afflictions (EDIT: plus soulless on steroids), but every other guardian and bard guild needs to be brought up to that level. I am being truly sincere when I say that I don't care about which route is taken, but I'm sitting on Cantor, Moondancer, and Celestine alts, and it is important to me that balance be made universal.

There is no aeonics defence that lets not only your attacks but also all the other things listed somewhere above fail. Foresight IS powerful, maybe too much so, but compared to Badluck it's tame.

Not to mention, the entire opposition I've heard to BadLuck isn't the skill or effect itself but the fact that it will stack with itself perpetually which is not emulated by or shared with any skill in Aeonics, or in the game for that matter.

How's foresight + switchfate + futureglimpse + insight/timelessbody compare to Badluck?

Which one those aeonics skills knocks you off-balance for trying to focus mind?

If by "stack with itself" you mean the balance stacking issue, then you're wrong about that. There are other abilities that stack balance loss in much the same way, just not on the same actions.

Vadi discovered something interesting from testing what BadLuck fires on. From his tests it seems like BadLuck can fire on any ability that has a Balance/Equilibrium check (It uses them or needs them but not use them) and a focus balance check. It fired on things like Scent, Cleanse, Nature rooting, among the other things we already know about. We can't be completely certain about the theory, since it would require conformation from the Admin or a lot more testing to confirm. Still, from what he has so far it seems BadLuck is a bit more far reaching in effect than some of us thought it was.

None of 'em.

What part of Paradigmatics masks badluck? What part of Paradigmatics gives aeon? How many passive sources of afflictions does Paradigmatics have compared to Aeonics?

Devil's in the details, but you don't get to pretend to be on the losing end of skill balance.

I'm a Sentinel, not a researcher, what pretending?

I'm still talking about aeonics.

PS: Still looking for the weapon skill that removes defenses to my passive cure hindering at...oh wait, I don't have one of those.