How long does Foresight last?

50% Mythical skill, 4 second equilibrium cast at base speed, lasts for about 3 minutes.

I have a hard time believing all of this, but over the course of an hour, I suppose it can happen that you get a series of 3-vessel bursts.
As for proper insanity curing, I ate pennyroyal on each herb balance in my log, yet he got me to moderate insanity fairly easily. I suppose we can agree that insanity curing has to include focus mind, the question should be about the consequences of that.

One remark to balance loss stacking from using focus mind. As I see it, it's fairly unproblematic for anyone using equilibrium or psionic balances to throw in a focus mind after each attack. Worst that will happen is that they get thrown off balance while already being off eq or psionic balance, anyway. Depending on the eq loss of their attacks, it could hinder them a bit (bards, for instance, whose eq loss times are generally short in comparison).
Now for anyone using balance for their attacks, it's a different matter, since they have to suffer the balance loss from badluck procing on focus mind -in addition- to their normal balance loss from the attack.

This is more of a consequence of Greywhispers than Badluck or Revelations. Passive mental affs + passive insanity.

Balance loss stacking definitely has to go, though. From Badluck I mean. I'm still kinda ehhh on ecto/sludgeworm.

That was the simple solution I suggested when I first made the complaint about it months back. I did not ask for any power cost, or reduction on what it fires on. I simply asked that it did not stack with itself.

It was very straight forward after several hours of testing. We were up till past 2am my time running this through the wringer. It built on me exactly one time out of all the testing. That one time, having sucessfully killed kalin with bleedout from burst vessels (obviously, he was just using paradigmatics, like Egran was, so that's not saying anything about Kalin), I got overconfident about the curing and wasn't hindering him at all, just staffing, and didn't check greywhispers for a good while, resulting in a big fat mess of mental affs, which got me in a heap of trouble.

If I hindered even slightly, and paid enough attention to greywhispers to diag when needed, it was very easy to keep away from major and massive. He could get me to moderate usually, but not past it. If I dedicated a bit more effort to raw hindering, he didn't even get my truename. If I purely hindered, of course, he got nowhere- but naturally neither did I in that scenario. The only situtation that went badly was just going straight for the throat with kill buttons, without hindering- and even that spar, mentioned above, took several recycles of badluck and greywhispers before I got in to trouble.

It should be noticed that all of these spars were only showing the scenario that Egran presented in his fight with you, and don't indicate anything regarding and Illuminati using their full compliment of abilities.

Edit- I will say this though! No matter the results of the tests, just using para was leauges better than anything I can manage with burn levels. With a full demesne compliment, phoenix breath, TK combos designed purely to facilitate burns (pyrotoxin dagger yielded the best result there), blowing all my power on incinerates (4p a pop), and using illusions aimed purely at inhibiting burn curing? (All of the above decided on after complaints, conversations, and tsting)

Never get past, after blowing everything, a few seconds at third degree, which quickly falls back down to 2nd. Never get anywhere near 4th. Against "that system", I don't break 2nd.

And this is against an opponent who just stands there and does nothing.

I have a fix in mind for that too. I have pondered a few fixes for that aspect since the beginning. As I said though I want to see how this first fix pans out before jumping to further things, cause I am sure that the fix will cause outcries of "NO just remove it and that's that!" from some corners.

Balance loss stacking is very simple to avoid and code to never happen. You know when badluck procs and you know how long it lasts, giving you both the variables you need to know to know whether it is safe to focus or not. You can easily code to not focus if you are already off balance/badluck procced, while under a badluck affliction. This does granted give you a chance to proc badluck itself a little more often, but it keeps you from stacking the badluck. All with 2 lines of code on your Focus cure function.

That is not the only thing it can proc from and stack with itself. I have found that it procs on Crystalplex actions, with targeting from that being only possible while in the room with the target. What you are also asking is that people accept the failure on a focus body cure, wait 3 seconds for the recovery balance (all while in the prone state mind you) and then try again which also has the same chance of firing Badluck. Being off-balance is bad, but being off-balance while in the prone state (which paralysis does) is far worse.

That would then mean that pure balance classes maintaining an offense can never focus, unless hindered from attacking already. Sure, it's something you can adjust to, either by never focusing then or halting your attack when you need or want to focus. The question should be whether it is acceptable to have to adjust to that in such a way while Badluck is so easy and cheap to maintain on someone.

I guess you are just gonna have to try harder then. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.

Cake and eat it too? The only one having that in this situation is the BadLuck User.

OMG, you might have to actually manually focus body, instead of waiting. Heaven forbid you put some thought into anything, Geb. I mean it's not like you have actually been involved in real combat in ages, choosing instead to sit up high and preach about the glory days when you used to be amazing. I guess you could have forgotten how to do something manually when needed to do so.

I am sorry that you come armed with assumptions and theories about proc rates and how debilitating it would be if this set of scenarios happens and I come armed with hard data saying just how likely the chance of that happening really is. It must suck to be proven wrong by a scrub like me. I have already told you how to adjust your curing to avoid the balance stack, if it stacks on crystalplex actions (which I have yet to see anyone but you claim it does, and forgive me if I don't accept your word as gospel truth without some evidence) then I am sure something can be done about that too.

I am not however going to bend over and say "omg, Geb is right, flat out remove balance stacking" when it can be avoided, and coded around and currently is the only means to stop fast curing of insanity, preventing illumination from happening ever, and anyone trying to argue that's not the case is either a liar or delusional. So which are you?

You're telling people to manually focus body? Seriously? Maybe it is you who should get into more fights again outside of your weird arena tests.

Hey Vey, remember that time, back pre KD nerf, when you were an axelord demigod trying to kill a -druid- on the -water- plane (Read: out of his meld without access to 90% of his skills)? Remember that time? Remember that druid standing there getting so bored with you unable to kill him that he told you to go invite some friends to come help you? Yeah, those were good times.

I wouldn't open your mouth about combat if your only claim to fame is shofangi greenlock.

It figures that all your arguments amount to are insults. Yes, I remember that time more than a year ago, I was on nexus with NO druid reflexes at all then. I do remember it and you just putting up ancestralcurse and hindering. You're welcome to try that again should I ever play warrior again. In any case it doesn't prove or disprove anything regarding this thread. Someone telling people to do a vital cure to a heavily restricting affliction manually should get back to reality.

uh, I didn't drop ancestral curse and I couldn't hinder... no forest remember, no access to 90% of skills? Nice try though.

Edit:: And if you don't know when to manually cure, then don't come crying to the forums when you get your ass beat down.

You did, but since I don't have a log, I'll just leave it at that.

No comment to the edit, really. As far as I'm concerned, you've forfeited the right to be taken seriously in the course of this thread.

Luckily for you, I log everything. Now I just have to decide if the 10 e-peen points are worth hours of digging through a year's logs to publicly humiliate you even more.

I have no problem admitting to not knowing your skills as well as you do. Since you're only handing out information when it suits your argument, you're not exactly helping at that point.

And sure, show us that log. Because I also have no problem admitting that I'm wrong there, if it should be the case. Right now, it's your remembered version against mine.

Handing out what information when it suits my argument?
If you mean what the skill does I handed out that information months ago. The fact you don't know it is nobody's fault but your own as it is on the forums and I am under no obligation to repeat myself every single time someone like you runs here to cry.

If you mean handing out information on curing, I am under even less obligation to do that. It serves me no purpose whatsoever to fix your curing for you or tell you how to do it better. The only thing it does is make it more likely that you will cure better against me next time we fight. If you want to start handing me credits I can probably fix a whole lot of your curing for you, until such time as that happens I am fully within my right "to hand out information as it suits me"