Midnight Crew versus

by Casilu

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Unknown2010-11-18 17:38:14
Whoops, just saw Casilu's post. So definitely not a modkill.
Ssaliss2010-11-18 17:38:29
QUOTE (Arath @ Nov 18 2010, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If that was so, then Diamondais should've died as well, shouldn't she?

Oh, right, forgot about her roleclaim. I was basically following Caerulo's post saying "He quoted his role-PM and got modkilled". Anyway, that's obviously not the case (both from Casilu saying so and Dia not being dead).
Diamondais2010-11-18 17:39:54
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Nov 18 2010, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, right, forgot about her roleclaim. I was basically following Caerulo's post saying "He quoted his role-PM and got modkilled". Anyway, that's obviously not the case (both from Casilu saying so and Dia not being dead).

The no quoting the mod rule means direct word for word pull from the PMs usually. Which Aysidra didn't do, there was some differences which were pulled from post to post.
Unknown2010-11-18 17:42:27
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Nov 18 2010, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or it wasn't his role at all, and the role he actually had prevented false roleclaims. Which really makes me curious, since that'd likely either be a third party.


I don't think so. Why would we only get the fake claim, instead of the true role reveal?
Ssaliss2010-11-18 17:45:56
QUOTE (Vendetta Morendo @ Nov 18 2010, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think so. Why would we only get the fake claim, instead of the true role reveal?

Depending on which his real role would be if that scenario is true (I'm leaning more towards the third option though), it could be that he wanted to sow some extra confusion due to his heartattack. But if it wasn't a modkill, that option is out anyway. So a dayvig or a comb rave power is most likely what happened, following the posts that were posted afterwards.
Unknown2010-11-18 17:57:53
Alright, let's see who else we've got: (adapted from Gleip's list)
Arath, Kiradawea and Gleip were very aggressive on Phoebus from the start: Mostly likely townie
I pointed out on Day One that both Rika and Ileein were suspcious, and was aggressive on Ileein on Day Two
Regardless of whether Diamondais' claim is true or not,
Arix, Vendetta, Othero are townie.

Why? If Diamondais is claiming truthfully, she's townie. The only reason she may not be claiming truthfully is if she's scum.
Only wrench in that is that one of them might have from being identified.

That leaves us with Ssaliss, who as I've mentioned was the next most suspicious after Ayisdra.

Although, I'd like to wait and see if anyone claims the daykill of Ayisdra and see if we can learn more from that.
Unknown2010-11-18 17:59:30
Edit in underline:
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Nov 19 2010, 01:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Alright, let's see who else we've got: (adapted from Gleip's list)
Arath, Kiradawea and Gleip were very aggressive on Phoebus from the start: Mostly likely townie
I pointed out on Day One that both Rika and Ileein were suspcious, and was aggressive on Ileein on Day Two
Regardless of whether Diamondais' claim is true or not,
Arix, Vendetta, Othero are townie.

Why? If Diamondais is claiming truthfully, she's townie. The only reason she may not be claiming truthfully is if she's scum, and hence no one else would be scum.
Only wrench in that is that one of them might have protection from being identified.

That leaves us with Ssaliss, who as I've mentioned was the next most suspicious after Ayisdra.

Although, I'd like to wait and see if anyone claims the daykill of Ayisdra and see if we can learn more from that.

Arath2010-11-18 18:09:49
Well, I think it was Ileein had the ability to protect himself from Die, whom I'm guessing is the vig. So the last scum having the ability to protect itself from investigation is possible. This would go well with a potential trick between Rika and Arix if Arix is the one with investigation protection.

Either way, we can vote for whom is going to get he level 3, 4 and 5 comb rave, so we should use this chance to discuss whom should get it.
Ssaliss2010-11-18 18:12:07
Personally I don't see what makes me suspicious; heck, I voted Rika on day two and later the same day put the last vote on Ileein. If that's scummy tactic, the same can be said about you calling Rika and Ileein suspicious on day one, as well as Arath, Kiradawea and Gleip aggressive against Phoebus on day one. Plus, you were quick about calling Ayisdras death a modkill, which kinda makes me suspicious.
Ssaliss2010-11-18 18:18:29
QUOTE (Arath @ Nov 18 2010, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I think it was Ileein had the ability to protect himself from Die, whom I'm guessing is the vig. So the last scum having the ability to protect itself from investigation is possible. This would go well with a potential trick between Rika and Arix if Arix is the one with investigation protection.

Either way, we can vote for whom is going to get he level 3, 4 and 5 comb rave, so we should use this chance to discuss whom should get it.

Personally I put all my votes on Vendetta. He's one of the few confirmed townies (at least in my eyes). Don't have a clue what exactly the comb raves do though... Anyone have more info about them?
Arath2010-11-18 18:18:35
What really makes Kiradawea, Gleip and me likely town and not backstabbers is that we actively worked hard on getting Phoebus lynched. Rika was obviously odd in her behaviour, so pointing that out isn't going to hurt her that much further.

Simply put, if a scum is likely going to die, and you help him or her die, then that does not make you unscummy to the same degree if you help kill a scum that was not likely to die. That's the argument.

So... who will we be giving comb raves to? We have three comb raves to hand out, and might as well do it before we move further.
Arath2010-11-18 18:20:46
Kiradawea says that she acquired a one-shot power from her comb rave.
Casilu2010-11-18 18:39:59
QUOTE (Arath @ Nov 18 2010, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kiradawea says that she acquired a one-shot power from her comb rave.


Where did she say that?
Ileein2010-11-18 18:40:00
Hmm. This game is really picking up.
Diamondais2010-11-18 18:47:26
QUOTE (Ileein @ Nov 18 2010, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm. This game is really picking up.

As it should be, back to your grave! Begone ghost, begone!
Ssaliss2010-11-18 18:49:55
Following on Arath's line of thought:
QUOTE ("MSPA Wiki - Midnight Crew")
DIAMONDS DROOG
The tall, intimidating looking fellow of the group. He wields the ULTRA-VIOLENCE CUESTICK. Little is known about him, though he appears to have an extremely short temper. Despite his perceived anger issues, he is rather intelligent and cunning, being able to use the time powers of THE FELT against them, and maintaining his composure and formulating an effective strategy while dealing with all of the Felt's time :censor:. The EXILE of ARADIA MEGIDO.

It says that he can use the time powers of the Felt against them. If this includes Dia's hat-trick, it does mean anyone who Dia said was town might still be scum. Couple this with the more or less non-presence of Arix (I don't think he's actually made one meaningful post, nor ever voted) and my vote is back on Arix.

Vote: Arix
Unknown2010-11-18 18:52:06
QUOTE (casilu @ Nov 18 2010, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where did she say that?


Right here.
Arath2010-11-18 22:50:24
Okay. I can get behind Arix, but are we not going to focus on who gets the Comb Raves first?
Ssaliss2010-11-18 22:53:52
I've already put in my votes, based on the fact that Vendetta is one of the sure townies in my eyes.
Arix2010-11-18 23:24:17
Hello all. I've been running errands today, didn't have time to get on the computer. Will post in a minute, need to catch up on today