Cosmic skills

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Saran2010-12-20 07:00:45
QUOTE (Eventru @ Dec 20 2010, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's important to remember all the creches were wrapped in 'wombs' made up of the elemental planes, if I do recall. So Celestia is 'wrapped' by water, which helps it grow.


I don't remember reading that, now I'm going to have to work out where that's from sad.gif

It also makes the cosmic planes quite a bit more confusing, the elemental planes we can expect are larger than what we see thanks to taerin but Celestia being "wrapped" in water is just... really weird
Furien2010-12-20 07:08:22
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As the Aquamancers transversed to higher vibrations, they discovered yet another plane of existence, wrapped around the plane of water like a womb wrapped around an unborn child. It was a plane of life and healing, of angelic beings and liquid light. They called the plane Celestia and the more devout mages left the path of elemental magic to devote themselves to the Holy Supernals, the Guardians of Celestia.


Aftermath of the Divine Wars
Saran2010-12-20 07:11:42
QUOTE (Furien @ Dec 20 2010, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aftermath of the Divine Wars


At... 'Tru is wrong though and it's still weird
Eventru2010-12-20 07:15:26
QUOTE (Furien @ Dec 20 2010, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aftermath of the Divine Wars


Ha, I had it backwards. Woops.
Saran2010-12-20 07:20:36
QUOTE (Eventru @ Dec 20 2010, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ha, I had it backwards. Woops.


I can't get past the why, especially with that wording.
Unknown2010-12-21 04:21:10
There are multiple Cosmic planes that were never reached. Chances are that they are not at all like Continuum, as Continuum is all crystally because it was Xyl's creche.

The Cosmic skill is alot less thematically linked to the specializations than Elementalism is to the elementalist specializations. While Elementalism is based off of manipulating the four classical elements, Fire, Air, Water and Earth and specializes into manipulating just one of those four really well, Cosmic is based off of manipulating cosmic threads* and specializes on a specific divine creche. You can make up a justification for why you need to study what amounts to physics in order to study cosmic energies, but you do have to make something up to do it.

*Cosmic threads are four dimensional atom analogues consisting of a curved line going constantly forwards while moving along 3 spatial dimensions. There is some debate ingame over whether their are specific elemental threads, ala a "fire thread" or if threads can change between elemental states based on phase.
Aerotan2010-12-21 13:55:23
I held an impromptu lecture on Harmonics at one point, with my researcher explaining that his understanding of both it and ultimately all skills was that they were based entirely on psychosomatic resonation. IE: The 'spells' mimic certain energy vibrations, which causes the target's body to adjust in various predictable manners. The planes react very strongly with those vibrations and force a change based on them. Likewise, on a smaller scale, the body forces you to recover from ailments that, logically, have little to do with a given curative, simply because you really, REALLY think it should. IE: Eating myrtle cures such a wide variety of things not because it has any particular property inherently, but because adventurers have accepted that myrtle cures them all as fact, and their bodies compensate.
Lendren2010-12-21 14:01:17
An interesting theory, but to the extent anything can be proven or disproven, that one is easily disproven. Just use harmonics on someone in blackout.
Unknown2010-12-23 14:05:06
QUOTE (Lendren @ Dec 21 2010, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
An interesting theory, but to the extent anything can be proven or disproven, that one is easily disproven. Just use harmonics on someone in blackout.


Blackout prevents the victim from observing the effects. That does not mean the effects do not happen anymore, yes?
Unknown2010-12-23 14:15:05
QUOTE (Aerotan @ Dec 21 2010, 08:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I held an impromptu lecture on Harmonics at one point, with my researcher explaining that his understanding of both it and ultimately all skills was that they were based entirely on psychosomatic resonation. IE: The 'spells' mimic certain energy vibrations, which causes the target's body to adjust in various predictable manners. The planes react very strongly with those vibrations and force a change based on them. Likewise, on a smaller scale, the body forces you to recover from ailments that, logically, have little to do with a given curative, simply because you really, REALLY think it should. IE: Eating myrtle cures such a wide variety of things not because it has any particular property inherently, but because adventurers have accepted that myrtle cures them all as fact, and their bodies compensate.


Interesting but that seems like it'd be more of a Illuminati belief, thinking it is true makes it true.
Lendren2010-12-23 14:33:16
QUOTE (Synbios @ Dec 23 2010, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Blackout prevents the victim from observing the effects. That does not mean the effects do not happen anymore, yes?

If the theory is that the effects only happen because of the victim being aware of them, the victim being unaware of them and them still happening, disproves the theory.
Elostian2010-12-23 15:02:12
Harmonics is actually one of the better defined cosmic skills (mostly because of complaints that it wasn't before), this was released along with the crystal weapons ability: AB Harmonics CrystalWeapons
Unknown2010-12-23 15:42:44
Hrm, I wonder which of the Spheres came from Xyl and Jadice, and how does it relate to them. Are they simply excess essence, essence which have served it's purpose (like the umbilical cord), or essence which is not compatible with that particular Divine (so, for example, rubies are charged from its respective Sphere, which is formed from the shed essence of passion and anger from Xyl and hence charges rubies with balefire)?


With regards to the 'thinking it is so and therefore it is' aspects, I've raised that point before when I attempted to get a guild discussion on reality and paradigms. For example, is the rose red because everyone thinks and says it is red, or is it really red? Is the rose still red if no one is looking at it? I tried to tie in what I learnt in Psychology about sensation and perception, but I could quite pull it off. Need to work on it a little more and try another discussion some day.
Ilyssa2010-12-23 19:55:13
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Dec 23 2010, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hrm, I wonder which of the Spheres came from Xyl and Jadice, and how does it relate to them. Are they simply excess essence, essence which have served it's purpose (like the umbilical cord), or essence which is not compatible with that particular Divine (so, for example, rubies are charged from its respective Sphere, which is formed from the shed essence of passion and anger from Xyl and hence charges rubies with balefire)?