Umineko Mafia - Night 4

by Furien

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Rika2011-02-05 03:24:38

I am aligned with the Town.
I am not a member of the Witch faction.
Town is the only group that I win with.
Unknown2011-02-05 03:33:46
I am aligned with the Town.
I am not a member of the Witch faction.
Town is the only group that I win with.
Diamondais2011-02-05 11:14:18
Hi everyone, sorry about that I was in a rush yesterday so I forgot to mention I was getting on a bus to go to my boyfriends house. I am back now!

I am Shannon, a servant to the Ushiromiya family. I am a mason partner with Solanis (George Ushiromiya), who proposed to me during the events of the massacre. We can talk to each other day and night on an outside source that Furian watches.

At night however, I am able to form a protective barrier around my room, or Solanis' room which will keep out anything that my magic is stronger than.

I win with the town.
I know Solanis shares the same win condition.
Town wins when the witch faction has been eliminated.
I don't belong to any other groups than Town and my mason partner.
I have no other win condition than town wins.
Gleip2011-02-05 13:34:31
Okay. I've taken another look over things. Here are the things I'm finding odd or suspect (not including Ssaliss obvious scumness because... oh wait. I guess I just included it.)

First thing that struck me is that I'm positive that there are two scum groups. Since the doctoring that Phoebus claims will kill her if she successfully protects someone, it seems certain that scum will manage to kill someone tonight, so unless we voted for no lynch we'd be at 4 town and 4 scum tomorrow. From that we can conclude that there is another scum out there that is not aligned with the primary scum faction.

Sylandra has claimed that she is Beato, that when she is investigated she'll turn up as scum and that this is something she might share with Ileein. This really rubs me the wrong way. Why would Furien include two millers (people who show up as guilty to investigation) in one game? That, and from the flavour text in the beginning...

QUOTE
Your challenge is thus: find the murderers among you and bring them to justice, escaping Rokkenjima alive before the resurrection ceremony of Beatrice reaches fruition, and with it your deaths as sacrifices.

It is the resurrection ceremony of Beatrice. Not Ange-Beatrice, not Eva-Beatrice, THE Beatrice which Beato was before. This coupled with her WIFOM argument "why would the scum queen out herself when scum is close to winning" makes me suspect.

There's also the matter of the lynch going ons last day. The halli-crew voted on Kira, despite all the evidence that she was town, they put the votes on her while she was MIA on vague reasons and when she defended herself, the votes didn't move at all. Through the game they've acted too much in unison for my comfort. Uniting forces to take out one of our strongest players is no good. And they piled up on Ssaliss a bit too fast. Yes, Solanis had just revealed that he had lied, and quite poorly at that. But we ARE in a MyLo, and even before he screwed himself up, we were discussing the notion of two scum factions. Ssaliss could be the SKer, and we might shoot ourselves in the foot if we lynch him. Also, if you have a horde of man-eating demon goat butlers, why roleblock and not kill?

Then again, Shou claimed that he was sent by Bernkastel. Why wait until right before the lynch deadline to reveal that?

Also, why did Ileein examine me? If I was part of the Mariage I wouldn't be so suspect against them.

Finally, I'm Hideyoshi. Which I believe means everyone has roleclaimed. We'll still need to discern who is EVA-Beatrice though, thanks to Furien's screw-up earlier.
Unknown2011-02-05 14:32:04
QUOTE (Gleip @ Feb 5 2011, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The halli-crew

Oh noes, there are people from Hallifax playing this game and they voted on someone!!!1 Get over yourself.

Also: why would Ssaliss lie if he had nothing to hide? He hasn't even tried to come up with something against it after we all started voting on him, he just went back to gunning for the Mariage. He blocked someone...with an army of demon goat butlers. That sounds pretty Bad Witch to me. He outright lied about the nature of his power, claimed falsely...what else do you want? That sounds like a good reason to vote for him to me!! There are four scum left. He's looking the scummiest right now, and it's by a long shot. I don't see how you could even possibly begin to believe that he isn't the right choice.

Ileein2011-02-05 14:53:27
QUOTE (Gleip @ Feb 5 2011, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, why did Ileein examine me? If I was part of the Mariage I wouldn't be so suspect against them.


When I looked through all of the posts following our coming out as a group, I must have missed the ones where you were outspoken. :shrug:
Gleip2011-02-05 17:40:24
No, you get over your childish bitching Phoebus. We are in a MyLo. Lynch the wrong guy and we might get lucky and survive until a LyLo, but likely we'll lose. We're looking for a group, but Ssaliss has so far not given of any vibes to any group. You? Ileein? Sylandra? Have. Nor has anyone been killed by demonic goats yet, but by demonic stakes. Is Ssaliss scum? No doubt about it. But I have only two shots at discovering the truth and many more whom I wonder about.
Rika2011-02-05 19:16:26
Kiradawea has not been the strongest player at all. Stop idolising her so much. It is annoying.
Unknown2011-02-05 19:25:08
Everyone needs to calm the censor.gif down and not attack each other, jesus.

disclaimer: just came back from dentist, may be a little nervy.
Furien2011-02-05 19:31:38
Er, wow. First warning. Last warning. Don't pull that again.
Rika2011-02-05 19:35:51
I actually think a truth-check on Diamondais' post would be the best idea. If she's telling the truth, we can write off both Diamondais and Solanis from our list. If she's not telling the truth, we can assume both of them can be lynched.
Diamondais2011-02-05 19:38:26
I wont object to it.
Ileein2011-02-05 19:40:38
QUOTE (Furien @ Feb 5 2011, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Er, wow. First warning. Last warning. Don't pull that again.


Er, don't try what? confused.gif
Diamondais2011-02-05 19:41:44
QUOTE (Ileein @ Feb 5 2011, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Er, don't try what? confused.gif

The general descent into fighting that some of the posts have been.
Ileein2011-02-05 19:45:47
QUOTE (Gleip @ Feb 5 2011, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We're looking for a group, but Ssaliss has so far not given of any vibes to any group. You? Ileein? Sylandra? Have.


Part of this is because Sylandra and I are a group. A real scum group would try not to give off group vibes.
Casilu2011-02-05 19:47:00
QUOTE (rika @ Feb 5 2011, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kiradawea has not been the strongest player at all. Stop idolising her so much. It is annoying.


Clearly the strongest mafia player on the forums is me when I'm being serious. (Which is rare)
Sylandra2011-02-05 21:40:36
Gleip, what do you want from me. I said as clearly as I can - for several posts now, even before I was prompted - everything that could possibly be looked over to see if I'm scum or town. I haven't done any riddles, I haven't said anything in a way that could be misleading.

I would also like to say something. The first Night, I checked a post of Kiradawea's for Red Truth. I have a night power similar to yours, it seems.

I was unable to say it as Red Truth, and that means one of the following statements by Kiradawea is untrue:
"I'm Eva." (Which we know is true now)
"I, Eva, am the wife of Hideyoshi." (Proven by canon)
"I, Eva, am the mother of George." (Also proven by canon)
"Hideyoshi is in this game."
"George is in this game."
"Both George and Hideyoshi are in this game."


I could not say that in red truth. So one of these roleclaims, it seems, could be a lie.
Unknown2011-02-05 21:49:25
Well... that's certainly interesting. I don't know how much certainty we can put on it though.


(I think it's a waste to use truthtelling on me and Diamondais, but I guess if you all agree then sure)
Sylandra2011-02-05 21:53:39
QUOTE (Solanis @ Feb 5 2011, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well... that's certainly interesting. I don't know how much certainty we can put on it though.


(I think it's a waste to use truthtelling on me and Diamondais, but I guess if you all agree then sure)

I'm surprised, myself. I thought it meant Kiradawea was lying about her role at the time.
Gleip2011-02-05 22:05:15
Lords you are aggrivating, but fine. Too late anyway. I've asked Furien to check Sylandra. If I survive until tomorrow I'll check Solanis then.