Unknown2011-01-26 05:10:47
I mean, the visual novel/anime/game or whatever.
I guess this Day 1 will be interesting enough given the 48 hour deadline.
I guess this Day 1 will be interesting enough given the 48 hour deadline.
Unknown2011-01-26 05:17:20
I started off by reading this summary from wiki:
Umineko no Naku Koro ni takes place primarily in the year 1986, during the time frame of October 4 and October 5 on a small, secluded island named Rokkenjima (å…軒島?) 10 km around owned and lived on by Kinzo, the head of the wealthy Ushiromiya family. Kinzo is near death, and eight of his family members arrive on the island for the annual family conference, where the adults plan to discuss how Kinzo's assets will be divided once he is dead. Also on the island are three family members who live there, five of Kinzo's servants, and his personal physician. After the eight family members arrive, a typhoon traps them on the island, and shortly after, strange things start to happen and people start dying.
The main character of the story is Battler Ushiromiya, son of Kinzo's second son Rudolf. Battler has not been to the annual Ushiromiya conference in six years due to living with his maternal grandparents ever since his mother Asumu died, and even took his mother's maiden name instead of Ushiromiya. When his grandparents died, he went back to living with his father, his second wife Kyrie, and their daughter Ange, his half-sister. Once on the island, Battler once again becomes acquainted with the legend of the golden witch Beatrice who supposedly lives in the naturally dense forest on Rokkenjima. A portrait of her lies in the entrance hall of the Ushiromiya family mansion, and a puzzling epitaph is written below the portrait. Rumor has it on the island that Beatrice gave ten tons of gold to Kinzo in the past to restart the Ushiromiya family after being crippled in the 1923 Great KantÅ earthquake. It is said that whoever solves the riddle of the witch's epitaph will receive the gold and be the next successor to the Ushiromiya family.
Once the typhoon hits, a ghastly game begins, starting with the murder of six people on the island. If the witch's epitaph cannot be solved, people will continue to die in mysterious deaths, following the outline given by the epitaph itself, until the witch Beatrice ultimately revives. After this comes to pass, Battler is the only one left alive who does not believe in witches or magic, and as such the door to the "golden land" (as stipulated on the epitaph) cannot be opened. Beatrice takes Battler and herself to a parallel dimension, Purgatorio, which is able to oversee events on Rokkenjima. From this point on, Battler and Beatrice are locked in a game of twisted logic where Battler must attempt to explain all of the mysterious events on Rokkenjima from the standpoint that they are caused by a human, and Beatrice attempts to explain everything with witches and magic. One of the recurring motifs is use of the locked room mystery, and several logical arguments are presented to explain the mysteries including the devil's proof, the raven paradox, and Schrödinger's cat. If Beatrice can get Battler to ultimately surrender and accept witches and magic, Beatrice wins.
Umineko no Naku Koro ni takes place primarily in the year 1986, during the time frame of October 4 and October 5 on a small, secluded island named Rokkenjima (å…軒島?) 10 km around owned and lived on by Kinzo, the head of the wealthy Ushiromiya family. Kinzo is near death, and eight of his family members arrive on the island for the annual family conference, where the adults plan to discuss how Kinzo's assets will be divided once he is dead. Also on the island are three family members who live there, five of Kinzo's servants, and his personal physician. After the eight family members arrive, a typhoon traps them on the island, and shortly after, strange things start to happen and people start dying.
The main character of the story is Battler Ushiromiya, son of Kinzo's second son Rudolf. Battler has not been to the annual Ushiromiya conference in six years due to living with his maternal grandparents ever since his mother Asumu died, and even took his mother's maiden name instead of Ushiromiya. When his grandparents died, he went back to living with his father, his second wife Kyrie, and their daughter Ange, his half-sister. Once on the island, Battler once again becomes acquainted with the legend of the golden witch Beatrice who supposedly lives in the naturally dense forest on Rokkenjima. A portrait of her lies in the entrance hall of the Ushiromiya family mansion, and a puzzling epitaph is written below the portrait. Rumor has it on the island that Beatrice gave ten tons of gold to Kinzo in the past to restart the Ushiromiya family after being crippled in the 1923 Great KantÅ earthquake. It is said that whoever solves the riddle of the witch's epitaph will receive the gold and be the next successor to the Ushiromiya family.
Once the typhoon hits, a ghastly game begins, starting with the murder of six people on the island. If the witch's epitaph cannot be solved, people will continue to die in mysterious deaths, following the outline given by the epitaph itself, until the witch Beatrice ultimately revives. After this comes to pass, Battler is the only one left alive who does not believe in witches or magic, and as such the door to the "golden land" (as stipulated on the epitaph) cannot be opened. Beatrice takes Battler and herself to a parallel dimension, Purgatorio, which is able to oversee events on Rokkenjima. From this point on, Battler and Beatrice are locked in a game of twisted logic where Battler must attempt to explain all of the mysterious events on Rokkenjima from the standpoint that they are caused by a human, and Beatrice attempts to explain everything with witches and magic. One of the recurring motifs is use of the locked room mystery, and several logical arguments are presented to explain the mysteries including the devil's proof, the raven paradox, and Schrödinger's cat. If Beatrice can get Battler to ultimately surrender and accept witches and magic, Beatrice wins.
Unknown2011-01-26 05:23:32
QUOTE (AllergictoSabres @ Jan 26 2011, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Beatrice takes Battler and herself to a parallel dimension, Purgatorio, which is able to oversee events on Rokkenjima.
It seems like to me this should be pretty strong evidence of magic already...
Tekora2011-01-26 05:40:21
Umineko: Everyone dies and magic is real.
And to sate my curiosity... a question for Furien. Are we (players) allowed to use Red Text?
And to sate my curiosity... a question for Furien. Are we (players) allowed to use Red Text?
Unknown2011-01-26 05:51:35
QUOTE (Tekora @ Jan 26 2011, 06:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Umineko: Everyone dies and magic is real.
And to sate my curiosity... a question for Furien. Are we (players) allowed to use Red Text?
And to sate my curiosity... a question for Furien. Are we (players) allowed to use Red Text?
Do you feel that your posts lack flare or something?
Shulamit2011-01-26 06:34:16
From my readings, red text denotes truth. But not as...truthy as golden text. Sort of truthy?
Casilu2011-01-26 06:44:51
I'm going to
##VOTE: PHOEBUS
for being around and not confirming.
Also, magic isn't real. What is wrong with you people?
##VOTE: PHOEBUS
for being around and not confirming.
Also, magic isn't real. What is wrong with you people?
Unknown2011-01-26 06:56:01
QUOTE (casilu @ Jan 26 2011, 01:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm going to
##VOTE: PHOEBUS
for being around and not confirming.
Also, magic isn't real. What is wrong with you people?
##VOTE: PHOEBUS
for being around and not confirming.
Also, magic isn't real. What is wrong with you people?
Aww, I was just waiting for Sylandra! So I could be like, "hey guys, I'm here, and Sylandra is around." But then she took longer than I thought she would. Is it such a crime?
Casilu2011-01-26 06:59:50
QUOTE (Phoebus @ Jan 25 2011, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aww, I was just waiting for Sylandra! So I could be like, "hey guys, I'm here, and Sylandra is around." But then she took longer than I thought she would. Is it such a crime?
Yes, you could be lying. It is often a scum sign to do that last as it gives you more time to prepare.
Unknown2011-01-26 07:05:13
QUOTE (casilu @ Jan 26 2011, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, you could be lying. It is often a scum sign to do that last as it gives you more time to prepare.
I had no idea about that being a thing at all. I'm inexperienced with this, remember?
Ileein2011-01-26 07:06:13
As far as I can tell, red text must be true but can also contain deliberate ambiguities intended to mislead. Gold text must be true. NOTE I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
Casilu2011-01-26 07:10:40
QUOTE (Phoebus @ Jan 25 2011, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had no idea about that being a thing at all. I'm inexperienced with this, remember?
It is a logical conclusion, captain.
Rika2011-01-26 07:14:01
Gold and red are for Furien.
Furien2011-01-26 07:44:44
QUOTE (Tekora @ Jan 25 2011, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Umineko: Everyone dies and magic is real.
And to sate my curiosity... a question for Furien. Are we (players) allowed to use Red Text?
And to sate my curiosity... a question for Furien. Are we (players) allowed to use Red Text?
As much as I would like people to use coloured text, using red text in Mafia when it isn't a mod-given power of some sort would probably just lead to a headache. Nobody would actually say something in red that actually, you know, could be in red in the first place.
Blue's all good, though.
For me, Gold is me talking as a mod.
Red is used to describe in-game events; persons are lynched, etc.
Shiri2011-01-26 07:50:12
Fans aren't sure what gold text is exactly, but red text is all literally true.
Kiradawea2011-01-26 09:44:17
Naughty pup volunteering me without my consent. Sorry Vendetta. I'll make sure to hit him with a newspaper for you.
Anyway, right now I am in class, so I will make a more indepth post later. For now, just saying hi.
Anyway, right now I am in class, so I will make a more indepth post later. For now, just saying hi.
Diamondais2011-01-26 09:50:05
I do know about Umineko, mostly the anime and manga, though I am currently in the process of getting the sound novels (damn proxy).
I might be a little scarce today, as I have a volunteer fair to attend and going off experience, most talk happens either late at night for me, or after I've fallen asleep.
I might be a little scarce today, as I have a volunteer fair to attend and going off experience, most talk happens either late at night for me, or after I've fallen asleep.
Furien2011-01-26 10:35:52
Day 1 Before-I-go-to-bed Votecount.
Ileein (1): AllergictoSabres
AllergictoSabres (1): Shiri
Kiradawea (1): Rika
Phoebus (1): Casilu
With 16 people alive, it will take 9 votes to lynch someone.
Boy I hope I formatted this right. :X
Ileein (1): AllergictoSabres
AllergictoSabres (1): Shiri
Kiradawea (1): Rika
Phoebus (1): Casilu
With 16 people alive, it will take 9 votes to lynch someone.
Boy I hope I formatted this right. :X
Gleip2011-01-26 13:40:23
Okay. Trying to read up on the flavour of the game almost broke my mind, so I'll be letting the flavour pass for now and focus on good ol' post analysis, in which I am currently most suspect of Casi and Rika.
Rika, it was for voting for Kira, and using the reasoning that it was "spot grabbing". However, Kira didn't do any sort of spot grabbing. I was the one who suggested it as it seemed we were lacking a 16th player and I wanted the game to start quickly. If the problem was "spot grabbing" she should've voted for me. She didn't. And since Kira is a better player than me, she hadn't confirmed her position yet, and if she wouldn't, whomever replaced her would be tossed into a very quick day with little prior knowledge, that seems more like an attempt to lynch a skilled player early on, by way of the general day 1 "we have no one better to vote for".
Casilu, I wonder about because she puts a vote on Phoebus because Phoebus was waiting for Sylandra. The forum presence of the Halli-crew suggests that they really are BFF. It makes more sense that she'd choose to wait for her friend, than to play a clever waiting game, trying to draw out a few more minutes of doing... what exactly? Long day benefits town more, and unless scum can talk to each other during the day, a longer day would only make it drag on longer before scum could talk with one another.
Rika, it was for voting for Kira, and using the reasoning that it was "spot grabbing". However, Kira didn't do any sort of spot grabbing. I was the one who suggested it as it seemed we were lacking a 16th player and I wanted the game to start quickly. If the problem was "spot grabbing" she should've voted for me. She didn't. And since Kira is a better player than me, she hadn't confirmed her position yet, and if she wouldn't, whomever replaced her would be tossed into a very quick day with little prior knowledge, that seems more like an attempt to lynch a skilled player early on, by way of the general day 1 "we have no one better to vote for".
Casilu, I wonder about because she puts a vote on Phoebus because Phoebus was waiting for Sylandra. The forum presence of the Halli-crew suggests that they really are BFF. It makes more sense that she'd choose to wait for her friend, than to play a clever waiting game, trying to draw out a few more minutes of doing... what exactly? Long day benefits town more, and unless scum can talk to each other during the day, a longer day would only make it drag on longer before scum could talk with one another.
Shiri2011-01-26 14:50:00
This day is gonna be really short anyway (justifiably since day 1s are always godawful and super boring.) I don't think anyone is really going to want to draw it out except whoever has the lynch train on them.