I don't expect Xikue to accept. Since if my little almost random guess was right, he would have too much to lose.

The dueling mechanic strikes me as very odd. It seems like you have more to lose than to gain from participating in a duel unless you have some reason to believe you have an advantage.

Checking in, though I might be scarce for a few days. I hope Xikue accepts, I want to see a duel 'in-action,' so to speak.

Hrm. Debating.
You don't have anything to lose, Casilu? You sound like you already have an idea who's aligned with you for some reason, so I'm less worried about hitting a fellow general now.

THERE'LL BE NO CHANCE TO TAKE BACK YOUR WORDS AFTER THIS, YOU REBEL JIA HOU!

Oh my pinyin so fails.

Only scum would have anything to lose. Especially since we have no idea how detailed the duel will be. And the 10% death chance.


Also, no, I have no clue who could possibly be on my side. This is one of those moments where I just enjoy a suicidal rampage. And now I think you're most likely town, anyway. Thanks for all the information you're giving everyone.

Huh. Your suicidal rampage ended rather quickly.

I wouldn't say only scum have anything to lose. But the possibility of dying and handing over voting power is a greater concern towards the end of the game, so I'm interested in trying it out early.

Yeah, this happens in some games. I sometimes play a quiet day one, I sometimes play a suicidally aggressive day one.


WE WHO ARE ABOUT TO DIE, SALUTE YOU!

(wait, that's Roman)

ORDER ARMY ATTACK CASILU

Only a scum would want to start a duel.

Wu, Wei and Shu are all oblivious to who is on their side and who is not. I reckon that if anyone roleclaims it will just invite generals from the other two kingdoms to completely annihilate the one whom they have reason to believe is from another kingdom.

So how does that work out? I reckon that the obvious thing would be for all the pro-Han to work against the anti-Han first, since I am rather sure that the anti-Han being gone is good for all the pro-Han.

I'd agree that would be nice, but I suspect Tekora has something beyond two-fold win conditions in place to keep that strategy from working.

Why?



I can see some reasons that this would be good for a pro-Han general. I mean, votes counting double for all of your kingdom? The possibility that votes will not count for your opponents kingdom? The chance that your opponent will die?

I mean, it is not only the scum who want to kill other people in this game.

Also, due to this duel we might find out whom the two are aligned with, all the ones who get double votes are on the side of the winner, if the vote roundup thing reflects that

That's how I see it playing out, at least. While we whittle down the rebels, plenty of us will die, perhaps even to the point that when we finally get the last of them, one faction will win. If we're not at such a point at that time... well, that's a bridge we'll have to cross then.

Hmm. I read "with the victorious general's army gaining morale and causing their vote to count for double that day" as only your vote counting double. After all, we're all generals with armies, as far as I've understood it?

No, I don't think we find alignment. The voting upgrade isn't for your kingdom. Directing your army is the voting flavour, so you're just increasing one person's voting power.

Oh right, my bad. Still, it seems like something that could work in favor of just about anyone to use the ability, I don't see why only scum would benefit from it.

I find that logic faulty.

1. Three Yellow Turban generals seems like a logical number (the wiki article points to three main leaders). With that low a number, losing a duel could be devastating. Why would you risk that much?

2. We have no idea how much/what is revealed. As the first duel of the game, this is a huge risk. If, for example, Xikue's soldiers go marching into battle with yellow turbans, that would be a BIIIIIIG hint.

3. If you start a duel with someone you think is scum, you can remove their ability to vote. That is a very nice advantage to taking someone out.

10% chance of dying and double voting favours scum.

At this point, even with a double vote scum have at most 4 votes. With 12 needed to lynch, that's fairly insignificant. Later, I've no doubt duels will become key.

-If- duels are purely RNG based, then I don't think scum would like a 50/50 chance of win/lose. They'd be risking too much and drawing attention to themselves.