Daereth2011-04-12 02:48:24
QUOTE (Lilia @ Apr 11 2011, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I stopped caring about those types of raids (one sided in our favor) long before he left.
Honestly, with our track record you take what one sided raids you can get. Better than getting stomped on.
Esano2011-04-12 02:58:40
We probably would have gone back for more Supernals if fleshpots hadn't bugged, but as the "make everyone fight for essence" plan had kind of been shafted already we just dropped Avatars to give Seren something.
Unknown2011-04-12 03:07:34
QUOTE (Esano @ Apr 11 2011, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We probably would have gone back for more Supernals if fleshpots hadn't bugged, but as the "make everyone fight for essence" plan had kind of been shafted already we just dropped Avatars to give Seren something.
How was the plan shafted? Stuff died that needs essence to repair. Seems straightforward.
Lehki2011-04-12 03:10:19
QUOTE (Alacardael! @ Apr 11 2011, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On the apparent weakness of Daughters/Ladies:
I can bash them, sometimes even 3 at a time (do love Healing auras), considering there aren't any notable defenders around. As Malarious and Co. considers me to be the weakest Glom, I thought this should put things into perspective. They're not hard fighting much if no player is actually there to support.
I can bash them, sometimes even 3 at a time (do love Healing auras), considering there aren't any notable defenders around. As Malarious and Co. considers me to be the weakest Glom, I thought this should put things into perspective. They're not hard fighting much if no player is actually there to support.
Weak at PvP combat and curing != weak at basing mobs.
The only real difference between ladies and daughters is that the clots have the potential to be more dangerous to a lone raider accidently going into a big group of them or when there are defenders, just shoving targets into the daughter clots is a fast way to kill them.
But to a group of raiders without many defenders up, they're little more then a road bump.
Rakor2011-04-12 03:12:47
QUOTE (Esano @ Apr 11 2011, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just to put it in perspective, we sat in Glom, regrouping and dropping Avatars one by one, then left when distort dropped. We didn't use the archway to get out.
We also offered one of the avatars to Fain, just to give Glom/Celest more ammo for the "you never let Seren get anything" argument
It was a bit strange to have around 30 Mags on at 2am too, but hey, it worked out!
Lilia2011-04-12 03:23:26
QUOTE (Daereth @ Apr 11 2011, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, with our track record you take what one sided raids you can get. Better than getting stomped on.
We don't get stomped on, though. And it's hardly fair to stomp on someone else, who's in the same position we used to be in. Yes, I said fair, crazy concept, I know. I try to think about how it would feel on the other side, and if it would piss me off, I try to stay away from doing it.
Esano2011-04-12 03:58:14
QUOTE (Rainydays @ Apr 12 2011, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How was the plan shafted? Stuff died that needs essence to repair. Seems straightforward.
The 12 fleshpots repopped. And when they were admin-killed, Crucible still wasn't turned on properly, so there's no reason not to ress the others first.
Malarious2011-04-12 04:01:41
Daughters admittedly also vary by phase of the moon.
Alacardael, a healer being able to tank, when they have the commune dmp, which is something in realm of 40 dmp to magic, physical, poison, cold, and like 24 to everything else... with a healing aura says nothing. That is like a warrior saying, hey I can tank it (oh wait, shuyin did). Cities do NOT get anywhere NEAR those levels of damage resistance so daughters are alot more painful.
@Anisu: I wanted to see the shield drop, as was said 4 hours per fleshpot, we killed 12... in 13 hours or so the flame would fail... we would have gotten a finale! Failing that I do not know what admin would do as they might say "well it wasnt you guys that would have gotten power from it" when in truth it wasnt about the power, it was about the accomplishment.
PS. As to raiding, make ALL cosmic mobs take power or NONE please. Daughters are stronger by far than most any angel/demon but they dont cost power. What sense does that make? Try to equalize the raiding, lots more daughters in a small area (but they dont clot right?) and they are alot stronger than the demons are.
I would love to see raiding itself be looked at, liveforest + 10 daughters in one room.... oww.
Alacardael, a healer being able to tank, when they have the commune dmp, which is something in realm of 40 dmp to magic, physical, poison, cold, and like 24 to everything else... with a healing aura says nothing. That is like a warrior saying, hey I can tank it (oh wait, shuyin did). Cities do NOT get anywhere NEAR those levels of damage resistance so daughters are alot more painful.
@Anisu: I wanted to see the shield drop, as was said 4 hours per fleshpot, we killed 12... in 13 hours or so the flame would fail... we would have gotten a finale! Failing that I do not know what admin would do as they might say "well it wasnt you guys that would have gotten power from it" when in truth it wasnt about the power, it was about the accomplishment.
PS. As to raiding, make ALL cosmic mobs take power or NONE please. Daughters are stronger by far than most any angel/demon but they dont cost power. What sense does that make? Try to equalize the raiding, lots more daughters in a small area (but they dont clot right?) and they are alot stronger than the demons are.
I would love to see raiding itself be looked at, liveforest + 10 daughters in one room.... oww.
Unknown2011-04-12 04:22:23
QUOTE (Malarious @ Apr 11 2011, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Daughters admittedly also vary by phase of the moon.
Alacardael, a healer being able to tank, when they have the commune dmp, which is something in realm of 40 dmp to magic, physical, poison, cold, and like 24 to everything else... with a healing aura says nothing. That is like a warrior saying, hey I can tank it (oh wait, shuyin did). Cities do NOT get anywhere NEAR those levels of damage resistance so daughters are alot more painful.
@Anisu: I wanted to see the shield drop, as was said 4 hours per fleshpot, we killed 12... in 13 hours or so the flame would fail... we would have gotten a finale! Failing that I do not know what admin would do as they might say "well it wasnt you guys that would have gotten power from it" when in truth it wasnt about the power, it was about the accomplishment.
PS. As to raiding, make ALL cosmic mobs take power or NONE please. Daughters are stronger by far than most any angel/demon but they dont cost power. What sense does that make? Try to equalize the raiding, lots more daughters in a small area (but they dont clot right?) and they are alot stronger than the demons are.
I would love to see raiding itself be looked at, liveforest + 10 daughters in one room.... oww.
Alacardael, a healer being able to tank, when they have the commune dmp, which is something in realm of 40 dmp to magic, physical, poison, cold, and like 24 to everything else... with a healing aura says nothing. That is like a warrior saying, hey I can tank it (oh wait, shuyin did). Cities do NOT get anywhere NEAR those levels of damage resistance so daughters are alot more painful.
@Anisu: I wanted to see the shield drop, as was said 4 hours per fleshpot, we killed 12... in 13 hours or so the flame would fail... we would have gotten a finale! Failing that I do not know what admin would do as they might say "well it wasnt you guys that would have gotten power from it" when in truth it wasnt about the power, it was about the accomplishment.
PS. As to raiding, make ALL cosmic mobs take power or NONE please. Daughters are stronger by far than most any angel/demon but they dont cost power. What sense does that make? Try to equalize the raiding, lots more daughters in a small area (but they dont clot right?) and they are alot stronger than the demons are.
I would love to see raiding itself be looked at, liveforest + 10 daughters in one room.... oww.
I did the same thing as a tracker too, and you know how much DMP trackers get. Ladies/daughters don't even do much cutting/blunt damage, if at all.
P.S. I personally find the halli/gaudi mobs to be a bigger pain than daughters/ladies, if we're airing out opinions on OP mobs.
QUOTE (Lehki @ Apr 11 2011, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But to a group of raiders without many defenders up, they're little more then a road bump.
Ixion2011-04-12 04:51:15
QUOTE (rika @ Apr 11 2011, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes. One was Shakiniel and the other was Methrenton. 
Rika, thanks for that. Laff.
Malarious2011-04-12 05:27:06
QUOTE (Sojiro @ Apr 12 2011, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I did the same thing as a tracker too, and you know how much DMP trackers get. Ladies/daughters don't even do much cutting/blunt damage, if at all.
P.S. I personally find the halli/gaudi mobs to be a bigger pain than daughters/ladies, if we're airing out opinions on OP mobs.
P.S. I personally find the halli/gaudi mobs to be a bigger pain than daughters/ladies, if we're airing out opinions on OP mobs.
Least you get athletics and fullplate.
Agree about the halli/gaudi mobs though... entangle + paralysis + blackout mobs.... and they DONT cost power? But the retardedly weak ones (angels/demons) do? Who the...
Eventru2011-04-12 06:09:41
We'll call it cruelty - it's more bias, particularly on my part, against Magnagora and, especially, New Celest.
Muahaha.
(evil laughter is always a good point to close a thread. As the base of the thread is a non-point, and it rather feels like this thread is at or close to drawing into a ranting ground, I think I'll do that. Topic's been running for most the day, so I think everyone's said what they felt the need to say.)
Muahaha.
(evil laughter is always a good point to close a thread. As the base of the thread is a non-point, and it rather feels like this thread is at or close to drawing into a ranting ground, I think I'll do that. Topic's been running for most the day, so I think everyone's said what they felt the need to say.)
