Does anyone else believe an npk flag wouldn't stifle rp or have a negligible effect on the game? Or do you disagree? If so, why?

There is something bothering me about the npk flag idea, but I can't quite put it into words without specifics of the limitations. It might be some of the suggestions people have made polluting the idea, but I'm sure many people would want the non-jumping aspect to still allow the 'I can defend without giving up my only defense against 20 people coming out of nowhere and killing me instantly' since most of the people arguing for that have said permanent or once a weave.

I won't lie, I'm just gonna force people to use their tether and leave, if only to force them to walk all way back to where they were. If I were a griefer, which I am not.

Also yeah, lendren's argument works too

Give karma curses some teeth, really nasty ones. Extend Avenger to the planes but require more extensive requisites to be considered bullying (uncertain what). Only apply immunity to Avenger due to enemy territory to villages on prime and planes aligned to an org you are an enemy to, rather than all enemy territory (a major cause of ganks).

My suggestions.

Edit: As for diplomatic IC resolutions, it's kinda pointless to pay a fine for unenemying when you were enemied in the first place, and will be re-enemied in the future, at a whim. This includes defending your own planes from external attack, simply walking through an area, or even defending yourself from a random unprovoked gank. I have never participated in any attack on Glom territory or protected denizens... ever. Yet I'm still enemied due to defending in raids, or random gank attempts by known griefers with the ability to enemy who do so to spite you when you successfully escape/turn the tables. Pursuing IC diplomacy is the most amusing thing I've heard in this thread.

Edit2: An NPK flag would either be extremely abusable, or crippling and stifling, depending on the restrictions related to it. I'm in the -extremely- bad idea camp when it comes to NPK flags.

Why not make it so that the tether only activates when the person drops below a certain percentage of health as long as they perform no aggressive actions toward the attacker. That way this scenario wouldn't come up. It would also safely teach newbies how to get away with the tether being the fail safe.

Why not make it so that the tether only activates when the person drops below a certain percentage of health as long as they perform no aggressive actions toward the attacker. That way this scenario wouldn't come up. It would also safely teach newbies how to get away with the tether being the fail safe.

Well, the problems would be npk flagged people interfering during legitimate combat (picking up corpses, etc.) as well as doing quests or other things without anyone able to stop them. We wouldn't be able to easily stop quests from being performed, for example, irregardless of npk flag. Then, of course, there are simply jerks/idiots who would use the protection to act like bigger jerks/idiots. Again, as much as it may seem 'simple', there are a lot of exceptions, qualifications, etc. Of course, we could just keep it simple and allow quests, picking up corpses, etc., and tell people to suck it up, I suppose, but, again, it would change Lusternia's entire atmosphere.

As you can tell, I am not a fan of npk flags, but even so, want to know what others think and if maybe it could be suitably implemented. I will note that every IRE game has specifically and with very good reason stayed away from NPK flags. (Thus, even if I was convinced that was the way to go, I may be overruled by our corporate overseers.)

This seems much less abusable.

For those who think tether is excessive, and assuming you think griefing should be curbed, and assuming there is nothing to convince those who grief to curb themselves short of subjective intervention by admin, what would be the solution?

Crucify / sacrifice: No health damage (or even mana / ego damage).
Choke / P5 / Deathsong: No health damage (or even mana / ego damage).
Toadcurse: No health damage.
Telepath mind-bomb: No health damage.
Decapitate: Potentially done with almost no health damage.
Etc, etc.

Also, activating at health / mana levels would have it firing when mobs hit you too.

You know, tether could be completely optional even to trigger if that's the concern. Example:

"An aggressive action has just been initiated. You can type TETHER to return to your nexus."

Maybe I'm just full of wishful thinking, but has it ever been considered (or ever happened in the past) to have some of the leaders from each org sit down with the administration (you, basically), work out a set of "rules" for orgs to play along with, and have those leaders police their own orgs with admin oversight to keep stuff from getting stupid? I suppose exactly as it's written here, it probably won't work out, but some sort of player-policing with administrative oversight could potentially help.

Does TETHER work through stun / aeon / sap / choke?

Uh, yeah, that's wishful thinking!

But if the leaders of orgs wanted to do this, why would the admin have to get involved? They could simply punish their citizens for breaking the rules that the orgs set up among themselves up to and including kicking them out of the org.

Uh, yeah, that's wishful thinking!

But if the leaders of orgs wanted to do this, why would the admin have to get involved? They could simply punish their citizens for breaking the rules that the orgs set up among themselves up to and including kicking them out of the org.

We need a Geneva.

But remember, waterboarding doesn't count.