Specialization Choice: Commune Warrior

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Turnus2011-06-20 22:28:51
200-220 speed might work if you have a balance recovery bonus, its like 3.8-4 second recovery otherwise which is too slow to take advantage of tendon reliably, which you need to succeed as a PB. I found between 230-250 works pretty well for me as a race with no bal recovery modifiers.
Unknown2011-06-20 22:35:28
I have found that the best way to do it is to:

1) Minimize damage
2) Max precision
3) Put whatever is left in speed
4) Fight/spar a bunch. If you feel too slow, sacrifice some precision for more speed.
5) Repeat until you get the results you feel are best for you.
Turnus2011-06-20 22:48:52
QUOTE (Rainydays @ Jun 20 2011, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have found that the best way to do it is to:

1) Minimize damage
2) Max precision
3) Put whatever is left in speed
4) Fight/spar a bunch. If you feel too slow, sacrifice some precision for more speed.
5) Repeat until you get the results you feel are best for you.


Pretty much.
Unknown2011-06-20 23:53:58
QUOTE (Avuri @ Jun 20 2011, 03:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I prefer the flavor. I was and am wondering if the extra 10/20(?)/10 for the PB weapons is amazing and stackable with runes and drawdown or not so much.

Thanks everybody! Orclach resistances, especially with Drawdown and Fullplate, look pretty great, so I'm probably going to go with that. Any thoughts on the weapon specs? I heard Axelord was nice for Execute, but Blademaster/Pureblade seem to be the most popular by far, and there are no Bonecrushers due to BC just "being a bad spec"? Beating people down with morningstars seems awesome in my head, but if it's not going to work, why bother, you know? Plus I might need those extra PB Orclach boosts in order to make up for the 13 dex.


It's the weakest spec at the moment. You're not going to be doing much damage without bleeding (an advantage that blademasters have).

As a pureblade, you'll have crazy speed and precision with moon+racial spec+temper+masterweapon and so on. You should check out one of the more recent combat guide threads. They go into more detail why pb is more versatile than the other specs at this current date.
Unknown2011-06-21 15:57:38
QUOTE (Rainydays @ Jun 20 2011, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have found that the best way to do it is to:

1) Minimize damage
2) Max precision
3) Put whatever is left in speed
4) Fight/spar a bunch. If you feel too slow, sacrifice some precision for more speed.
5) Repeat until you get the results you feel are best for you.

So the way I figure it, a max prec- rest in highest speed integer greatsword if I went Moon would be around 186/577/210 after all buffs were added, and a katana would be 126/577/240.

At such ridiculous levels of stats (Holy crap, I hadn't done the math out until now), would there be diminishing returns or any noticeable differences in dropping 10 from each stat for Stag? In other words, what do the extra stats mean in practice?

Sorry I have so many questions tongue.gif
I'll graduate soon, Turnus!
Turnus2011-06-21 16:07:46
Keep in mind you're actually getting +20/22/10 from moon (and forging runes too) as a PB user. I'm not sure if there's diminishing returns on weapon stats or if its purely linear. But there's a very noticeable difference between 210 and 240 speed.

Test for yourself before runing a sword, or you might have buyers regret later if you rune a greatsword! Its also possible if you customize a katana (50 credits) you can get the keyword changed from katana to a regular sword. You could email artifacts@lusternia.com to ask about that.
Unknown2011-06-21 16:11:31
As far as I know, every 10 points of speed = 0.1 second difference in swing time. The difference also is only noticeable at every 10 point interval - 279 speed is the same as 270 speed, etc, which is important to remember with tempering up and down.

EDIT: Also, don't forget coal runes, if you can regularly get them. That's another 20/22/10 for PB.
Unknown2011-06-21 16:16:48
QUOTE (Turnus @ Jun 21 2011, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keep in mind you're actually getting +20/22/10 from moon (and forging runes too) as a PB user.

Oh wow. Something closer to 206/601/210 for the greatsword, then, and 136/601/240 for the katana assuming orclach is 10/20/10 and the rest are how I thought. Scary.
QUOTE (Turnus @ Jun 21 2011, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not sure if there's diminishing returns on weapon stats or if its purely linear. But there's a very noticeable difference between 210 and 240 speed.

Test for yourself before runing a sword, or you might have buyers regret later if you rune a greatsword! Its also possible if you customize a katana (50 credits) you can get the keyword changed from katana to a regular sword. You could email artifacts@lusternia.com to ask about that.

Thank you so much, I definitely will. That'd be perfect.
Unknown2011-06-21 19:41:09
You should also note that, while I've no complaints about PB, most combatants still go with Blademaster, because pinleg is still king of the hill for rant-inducing knight abilities.
Sylphas2011-06-21 23:05:50
Customization can't change the primary noun, afaik, or custom pig noses wouldn't be noses (and you'd see a lot more customized vacuums). However, you can OMIT the noun; my mandolin is just Dreamtide, Echo of Delirium. The fact that it is a mandolin is mentioned once in the long description, I think.
Lendren2011-06-22 00:06:56
Usually you can't even do that. I've had a few requests like that denied. But I did have one approved once, on a previous character, so it's probably a case by case thing.
Sylphas2011-06-22 00:10:59
QUOTE (Lendren @ Jun 21 2011, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Usually you can't even do that. I've had a few requests like that denied. But I did have one approved once, on a previous character, so it's probably a case by case thing.


Really? I've seen more weapons customized without the nouns than with. It still responds to the primary noun and has it included in the dropped and long descriptions, though.
Lendren2011-06-22 02:19:36
The one thing I got approval for was, of all things, a purse. But I wasn't able to change the nouns on a cameo, a pair of spectacles, at least one puzzle, a pair of boots, a pair of gloves, a circlet, and perhaps a monocle (can't remember if I didn't bother to ask). I fell halfway on a mask, which I was able to change to a "half-mask". I never tried on a weapon or anything routinely wielded, and I have noticed more of those around, but I am not sure why they should be more acceptable. (Is it less likely for you to find someone's viola or mace lying around, and not immediately know how to pick it up, than someone's cameo or purse?)
Rivius2011-06-22 05:23:16
As for customization, you can do whatever you want with swords. Eg. Narynth's rapiers being proper names. The rules don't apply as much to customized warrior weapons, so long as you're reasonable about it. I think you might need to do something for the dropped, but that's it.
Rivius2011-06-22 05:23:16
Edit: Sorry. Accidental double-post >:(
Sylphas2011-06-22 05:42:27
Maybe it's just a weapon thing.
Lehki2011-06-22 15:56:13
QUOTE (Rainydays @ Jun 21 2011, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You should also note that, while I've no complaints about PB, most combatants still go with Blademaster, because pinleg is still king of the hill for rant-inducing knight abilities.
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