Celina2009-01-20 05:45:28
QUOTE (Doman @ Jan 20 2009, 12:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeeeah, gonna keep my vote on Celina. That SCREAMS scum to me
I agree, but Rika was taking a vote a bit too personally ( 2) lying about not knowing what my power really does, you'd be the first I'd target with it.) so I unvoted before things got ugly. Don't want to start the game off on a bad foot!
Needless to say, I make Day 1 interesting.
Furien2009-01-20 05:51:58
I have to point out, that just because Rika was the first to open the safe and got a useful plasmid out of it, that in itself by no means disqualifies her as scum. It makes her useful. And scum like being useful- it means we keep them around and protect them and don't bother looking too closely. Celina's got a point.
Doman2009-01-20 05:59:45
Well obviously, don't discount Rika, but Celina's reasoning did nothing but say to me "Hey. She has powers. Kill her"
Casilu2009-01-20 06:01:45
QUOTE (Celina @ Jan 19 2009, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Needless to say, I make Day 1 interesting.
Yes you do. I love the tasty conflict.
Shiri2009-01-20 06:02:04
I realise scum like to be useful and it's an opportunity, but all that means is that she's not definitely NOT scum, it doesn't mean she is or is likely to be.
Celina2009-01-20 06:05:04
QUOTE (Doman @ Jan 20 2009, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well obviously, don't discount Rika, but Celina's reasoning did nothing but say to me "Hey. She has powers. Kill her"
Well, closer to...
"Hey, it's day one. We have nothing to go on. Rika jumped on that safe, we don't know what this telekinesis does. Let's pressure her unless something more concrete comes along."
...but sure.
Celina2009-01-20 06:08:25
Oh, and you'll notice that I said I didn't find Rika's actions to be particularly scummy. It's just that 1) we have nothing to go on because it's day one 2) No vote days are generally a bad idea and 3) It's my personal belief that, if we have no idea who is scum or not, taking out people with possibly dangerous powers is a reasonable way to go. Since we don't know who has what, or who has nothing...Rika is the logical choice for me.
Morhgor2009-01-20 06:32:09
QUOTE (rika @ Jan 20 2009, 12:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And no, I can also open safes quicker (which doesn't really make any sense, for TK).
You can move the tumblers with your mind!
/spectator
Shiri2009-01-20 06:36:06
QUOTE (Celina @ Jan 20 2009, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, and you'll notice that I said I didn't find Rika's actions to be particularly scummy. It's just that 1) we have nothing to go on because it's day one 2) No vote days are generally a bad idea and 3) It's my personal belief that, if we have no idea who is scum or not, taking out people with possibly dangerous powers is a reasonable way to go. Since we don't know who has what, or who has nothing...Rika is the logical choice for me.
Not an abysmal plan, I suppose, but I still prefer one of the random voters on the principle that they're probably trying to hide.
I don't see how the power could be dangerous either, unless she was lying and it's proper TK (which is possible.)
Unknown2009-01-20 07:06:55
I actually random'd and typed my vote first before the question about Rika's powers occurred to me, and on hindsight it does seem a little strange. I didn't think Rika was being overly scummy though, just opportunistic (a trait that benefits both town and scum), so the random vote was more a placeholder vote until there's more concrete evidence otherwise.
As for voting Rika off, I think it goes both ways in that it's difficult to say whether she's town or scum, and either useful or needing to be killed off quick. One point in her favour - she didn't interact with the safe towards anyone, even though she could have gone 'oops didn't know it would do that' if it does kill or cripple.
I'll go ahead with a Unvote, Vote: Serella for now, because her two posts involve a random vote and were rather lacking in substance.
As for voting Rika off, I think it goes both ways in that it's difficult to say whether she's town or scum, and either useful or needing to be killed off quick. One point in her favour - she didn't interact with the safe towards anyone, even though she could have gone 'oops didn't know it would do that' if it does kill or cripple.
I'll go ahead with a Unvote, Vote: Serella for now, because her two posts involve a random vote and were rather lacking in substance.
Unknown2009-01-20 08:10:46
I'm gonna go with Furien on this one. Even if Rika is scum, she's useful scum/notscum, and having her around could be helpful in the twisted games that Casilu will no-doubt throw at us.
I'm going to Unvote and Vote: Celina, because she seems to be quite reactionary about something we don't really understand and may be more likely to be an asset than a threat. Even if you're not scum, Celina, you said yourself we don't have much to go on, so I'm going with what I perceive that we do have.
I'm going to Unvote and Vote: Celina, because she seems to be quite reactionary about something we don't really understand and may be more likely to be an asset than a threat. Even if you're not scum, Celina, you said yourself we don't have much to go on, so I'm going with what I perceive that we do have.
Saaga2009-01-20 12:22:54
Alright, I've been reading the last few pages through and am going to Unvote for now. Let's see where this goes... I probably need more coffee first.
Noola2009-01-20 14:12:29
After reading all this, I'm going to Unvote.
I'm not going to vote yet, because I'm not convinced that Rika did anything unusual (if I had been the first person to be able to post after realizing objects can be manipulated, I prolly would have tried that too! ) and I can see where Celina's coming from. I almost want to vote for Shiri for trying to take over the game on the first day - maybe folks aren't convinced on who to vote for and want to get their semi-clever Random.org reference in for the day is all?
But, I don't feel strongly about any of them to vote yet.
I'm not going to vote yet, because I'm not convinced that Rika did anything unusual (if I had been the first person to be able to post after realizing objects can be manipulated, I prolly would have tried that too! ) and I can see where Celina's coming from. I almost want to vote for Shiri for trying to take over the game on the first day - maybe folks aren't convinced on who to vote for and want to get their semi-clever Random.org reference in for the day is all?
But, I don't feel strongly about any of them to vote yet.
Saaga2009-01-20 14:18:53
Yes, I think I require more information before I decide who to vote for. Celina has a point but so does Rika - could her skills be indication of some role? Ie. Mason, cop? I really need to reread the mafia help...
Kiradawea2009-01-20 14:27:15
Do we know anything about Rika except that she got Telekinesis from being the quickest? Celina has a point that it is something to go after but... no. I'm not convinced about anything right now, so I won't vote for the time being either.
Also, I think everyone has posted at least once in the game so far. (Except Renthur, the traitor who didn't join. )
Also, I think everyone has posted at least once in the game so far. (Except Renthur, the traitor who didn't join. )
Shiri2009-01-20 14:28:35
QUOTE (Noola @ Jan 20 2009, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After reading all this, I'm going to Unvote.
I'm not going to vote yet, because I'm not convinced that Rika did anything unusual (if I had been the first person to be able to post after realizing objects can be manipulated, I prolly would have tried that too! ) and I can see where Celina's coming from. I almost want to vote for Shiri for trying to take over the game on the first day - maybe folks aren't convinced on who to vote for and want to get their semi-clever Random.org reference in for the day is all?
But, I don't feel strongly about any of them to vote yet.
I'm not going to vote yet, because I'm not convinced that Rika did anything unusual (if I had been the first person to be able to post after realizing objects can be manipulated, I prolly would have tried that too! ) and I can see where Celina's coming from. I almost want to vote for Shiri for trying to take over the game on the first day - maybe folks aren't convinced on who to vote for and want to get their semi-clever Random.org reference in for the day is all?
But, I don't feel strongly about any of them to vote yet.
If they're hiding and making random votes instead of commenting on events/discussion it's scummy activity. If pointing that out is "taking over the game", take over away!
Unknown2009-01-20 14:30:18
Yeah, everyone has posted. Personally I think Rika's plasmid/power says nothing about her role really. And if it did, being able to open safe's faster would probably be a robber ability.
Vote: Nys for being extremely unhelpful in his posts, and doing nothing but random voting.
Vote: Nys for being extremely unhelpful in his posts, and doing nothing but random voting.
Shiri2009-01-20 14:30:23
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Jan 20 2009, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do we know anything about Rika except that she got Telekinesis from being the quickest? Celina has a point that it is something to go after but... no. I'm not convinced about anything right now, so I won't vote for the time being either.
Also, I think everyone has posted at least once in the game so far. (Except Renthur, the traitor who didn't join. )
Also, I think everyone has posted at least once in the game so far. (Except Renthur, the traitor who didn't join. )
We don't know anything about Rika other than that, no.
@Saaga: there is really not likely to be much info on day one, we already have more than we normally do. Don't make it drag on even longer than it always does!
Unknown2009-01-20 14:33:38
Yeah, Day 1 is almost always a shot in in the dark and crossing our fingers :/
Noola2009-01-20 14:38:44
QUOTE (Shiri @ Jan 20 2009, 08:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they're hiding and making random votes instead of commenting on events/discussion it's scummy activity. If pointing that out is "taking over the game", take over away!
But they did comment on events/disucssion. You even quoted it. They just chose to randomvote cause maybe they weren't convinced enough to vote on a particular person, and decided to go ahead and randomvote instead of not voting.
It is the first day after all, and to be honest, yes, we have things to discuss, but they're not exactly very concrete things. Rika opened the safe cause she was the first one to try. She got a plasmid ( ) and power which was completely random and up to the Mod to give her. Nothing about that screams, "Hey, I'm a scum!" Celina says she's voting for Rika cause she doesn't like that there's someone whose affiliation she doesn't know out there with a potentially deadly power. I get that, so that doesn't necessarily scream "Hey, I'm a scum!" either.
I'm not saying that everyone should just randomvote, but honestly if you don't feel like the choices are strong enough to be vote worthy, you can hold off on voting, or get your silly randomvote in. It's pretty much the same either way, IMO.