While we're waiting for Kiradawea to show up and modkill Fania for breaking the rules, I might as well share this just in case we get pushed into an early Night.

This is the second time S.A.W. has jumped on me for drastic moves. Now, maybe he's just a nervous-type player, but looking back at his posts, his logic seems VERY scummy.
No, your logic is looking more and more scummy, in my eyes.


In a game where we've had 7 roleclaims, 3 of them confirmed, this early in the game, any more roleclaims will help the Scum far more than they help the Town, because it gives the Scum more of an idea of who to target first.
Seven roleclaims? I don't remember seven, please list them. Also, there are 25 players, several of which we have heard nothing useful from.


This FoS came completely out of the blue while we were discussing Daganev's Maxim Tomato and while I was trying to build steam behind my Harkux train. Possible attempt to draw heat away from Harkux?



Not to mention that his next post continues to defend Harkux and push the Dag train forward. Again, I ask, more misleading?



And then again, he jumps on me for little reason other than me saying that Fania is a suspect of mine right now and that being on a team other than Daganev's would lead me to strongly believe that she is scum. Alas, this is all invalid now, as Fania seems headed towards a modkill. More interesting is the fact that Kiriwe, another top suspect, was all too eager to jump on and vote against me.

No, we are both questioning your logic for why Fania would be a suspect if Daganev is not on the same team as her. I didn't jump on you, I am following up on my earlier statement that I will not point fingers, I will vote my opinion, as I think this accomplishes more than just pointing fingers everywhere.

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In all, if you were to ask me, I'd say that S.A.W. is really, really intimidated by me for some reason. I can only wonder why. Care to elaborate, S.A.W.?

FOS: S.A.W.

While we're waiting for Kiradawea to show up and modkill Fania for breaking the rules, I might as well share this just in case we get pushed into an early Night.

This is the second time S.A.W. has jumped on me for drastic moves. Now, maybe he's just a nervous-type player, but looking back at his posts, his logic seems VERY scummy.



In a game where we've had 7 roleclaims, 3 of them confirmed, this early in the game, any more roleclaims will help the Scum far more than they help the Town, because it gives the Scum more of an idea of who to target first.



This FoS came completely out of the blue while we were discussing Daganev's Maxim Tomato and while I was trying to build steam behind my Harkux train. Possible attempt to draw heat away from Harkux?



Not to mention that his next post continues to defend Harkux and push the Dag train forward. Again, I ask, more misleading?



And then again, he jumps on me for little reason other than me saying that Fania is a suspect of mine right now and that being on a team other than Daganev's would lead me to strongly believe that she is scum. Alas, this is all invalid now, as Fania seems headed towards a modkill. More interesting is the fact that Kiriwe, another top suspect, was all too eager to jump on and vote against me.

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In all, if you were to ask me, I'd say that S.A.W. is really, really intimidated by me for some reason. I can only wonder why. Care to elaborate, S.A.W.?

FOS: S.A.W.

While we're waiting for Kiradawea to show up and modkill Fania for breaking the rules, I might as well share this just in case we get pushed into an early Night.

My logic for suspecting Fania is simple. I don't believe Daganev is scum. I believe Fania IS scum. If they're proven to be on different teams, then that will prove to me in my eyes that Fania IS scum. What I find funny is how much effort you just put into trying to discredit me and how easily I shrugged you off. Not to mention that anything involving Fania is soon to be rendered irrelevant, due to her imminent modkill.

Keep digging yourself deeper. Again, I find myself wishing that Shaddus had saved that day-kill. Now I'm going to wait until Kiradawea shows up and we find out what Fania's role is. Then we can see if you'll have to eat your words.

I'm not intimidated, I'm annoyed. You're telling people to shut up and get in line, and trying to rush night, ((Night has gone on for 25 friggin pages, how much longer do you need it to go on? Besides long enough to grab up a few more roleclaims?)) which doesn't help the town really.

And wtf here. First you say "Oh man, he's against Dag but for Hark, since I suspect Hark, he must be scum too!" then you say "Oh double man! he's against Dag but for Fania, since I now suspect Fania, he must be scum three!" So basically you're saying that you've just found possibly the only 3 scum all stupid enough to jump to eachother's defenses? Or maybe I was simply thinking pressure on Dag would be a good idea? I was obviously very consistent in that.((I didn't suspect you at all until after your second attack on me, in fact, I still don't suspect you enough to change my Harkux vote. However, that doesn't change the fact that you're the only one who's tried to provoke action against me, even though I have support from several other players.))

You are super aggressive. I don't care for that at all. It's as simple as that. Consider it a difference in play-styles. I run on facts and analyzing things. Patience and facts. You run on instinct and emotion. We're polar opposite player-types, and that's fine, but don't crawl up on me just because of that. ((You're the one crawling up on me. My target is HARKUX, not you. I'm simply defending myself.))

Again, my reasoning for saying that roleclaims are not a bad tactic here is because it's the truth--in this sort of game, just like last game, the massive wave of roleclaims actually helped us. So I have a base for my beliefs. I'm playing the same way this game as I was last game, just as Shiri pointed out, and in that game I was essentially town. ((Who gives a flying hockey puck about what happened LAST game? I hate people that try and claim that because something happened last game, that it gives them some kind of credibility. It's transparent and it reeks of SCUM.))

So FOS me all you want, but to me it looks like nothing more than a tantrum because you're being called on BS logic. This may be mafia, but I'm not in support of the emotional mob mentality. Sorry, ((What BS logic? I explained above, Daganev's actions aren't scummy to me at the moment. Fania's actions are.))

My logic for suspecting Fania is simple. I don't believe Daganev is scum. I believe Fania IS scum. If they're proven to be on different teams, then that will prove to me in my eyes that Fania IS scum. What I find funny is how much effort you just put into trying to discredit me and how easily I shrugged you off. Not to mention that anything involving Fania is soon to be rendered irrelevant, due to her imminent modkill.

Keep digging yourself deeper. Again, I find myself wishing that Shaddus had saved that day-kill. Now I'm going to wait until Kiradawea shows up and we find out what Fania's role is. Then we can see if you'll have to eat your words.

I didn't suspect you at all until after your second attack on me, in fact, I still don't suspect you enough to change my Harkux vote. However, that doesn't change the fact that you're the only one who's tried to provoke action against me, even though I have support from several other players.

Tell me why scum would throw a TEAM HEAL item at not scum?

Even if I do get modkilled it doesn't explain why you would think I was scum. You are defining me as scum because you believe that Daganev is not scum. I would have to be acting the opposite of Dag if I was scum and he wasn't. So show us where I'm acting like scum.

I think we are over thinking everything now. I don't know if the best plan is to lynch Harkux. I'll have to think about it more. Yes, I'm a hypocrite.

How do you know the Mod'll kill her and not just give a strongly worded, "Don't do that!" warning, especially since she's a newbie and all.

BUT ALL THIS IS NULL AND VOID BECAUSE FANIA IS DUE FOR A MODKILL.

How do you know the Mod'll kill her and not just give a strongly worded, "Don't do that!" warning, especially since she's a newbie and all.

Maybe I am, but I think you should let Kiradawea decide that. It said in the rules that she can chose to decide to do so if she wanted. It did not say that she had to. She may show leniency because I'm a newbie. If not I'll accept it, but right now you are deciding for her.

Because if rules are given for a game, I'd expect those rules to be enforced.